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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby modern roots » Sat Apr 06, 1:13 am

Did I mention Kamala Harris wants to legalize marijuana?

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby Dazzler » Sat Apr 06, 8:58 am

I predict O’Rourke selected, runs against Trump, Trump wins.

Bernie is your only hope if you don’t want another term of this piss-haired clown.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby Cat » Wed Apr 17, 8:07 pm

Dazzler wrote:I predict O’Rourke selected, runs against Trump, Trump wins.

Bernie is your only hope if you don’t want another term of this piss-haired clown.


I'd like to vote for Bernie but sadly he keeps running as a Dem and not as an Independant. At best his candidacy has propagated more progressive concepts in recent years.

I'm quite fond of all the new progressive female members of Congress. Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib. Gutsy awesome fearless ladies. They scare the shit out of Republicans. More minorities please.

Now is the time to subvert the values of any and all Trump supporters.

Trump has given renewed voice to so many crazy fuckers in our society that I'll be amazed if we get through this election cycle with out attempts on candidates lives.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby Bohannon » Thu Apr 18, 3:22 pm

Sanders/Warren followed by Warren/Sanders could save our democracy (one term each please.)

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby modern roots » Fri Apr 26, 2:37 am

I'll be voting for the democrat that wants to legalize weed. Simple enough.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby Bohannon » Fri Apr 26, 2:55 pm

modern roots wrote:I'll be voting for the democrat that wants to legalize weed. Simple enough.



Because you're an idiot.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby modern roots » Fri Apr 26, 4:21 pm

No, not because I'm an idiot, because I want weed to be legal everywhere. It's an important issue for me.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby Bohannon » Sat Apr 27, 1:35 pm

modern roots wrote:No, not because I'm an idiot, because I want weed to be legal everywhere. It's an important issue for me.



Yes, it's the most important issue to you because you're an idiot.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby modern roots » Sun Apr 28, 1:49 am

Bohannon wrote:
modern roots wrote:No, not because I'm an idiot, because I want weed to be legal everywhere. It's an important issue for me.



Yes, it's the most important issue to you because you're an idiot.


OK Mr. Smarty pants. What's an important issue for you?

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby slither » Sun Apr 28, 7:26 am

modern roots wrote: OK Mr. Smarty pants. What's an important issue for you?


Denying individuals such as yourself access to firearms or flammable liquids.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby Bohannon » Sun Apr 28, 2:14 pm

Erm, Global warming, pay parity, human rights, clean elections, term limits, doing away with: gerrymandering, vote suppression, Citizens Untied...just to name a few that are much higher on my list than the legal right to get high. Personally IDC if cannabis is ever legalized. Laws have not kept me from the ganja.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby modern roots » Mon Apr 29, 1:20 am

Bohannon wrote:Erm, Global warming, pay parity, human rights, clean elections, term limits, doing away with: gerrymandering, vote suppression, Citizens Untied...just to name a few that are much higher on my list than the legal right to get high. Personally IDC if cannabis is ever legalized. Laws have not kept me from the ganja.


Get real, Bo, nobody cares about global warming. Pay is equal now. Term limits will never happen. Human rights? We have the constitution. Voter suppression is a myth.
None of these things you listed are nearly as important as legalized weed. Too many people rotting in a jail cell for simple marijuana possession. Ask some of these people if the myth of global warming is as important as their freedom.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby Bohannon » Mon Apr 29, 12:30 pm

modern roots wrote:
Bohannon wrote:Erm, Global warming, pay parity, human rights, clean elections, term limits, doing away with: gerrymandering, vote suppression, Citizens Untied...just to name a few that are much higher on my list than the legal right to get high. Personally IDC if cannabis is ever legalized. Laws have not kept me from the ganja.


Get real, Bo, nobody cares about global warming. Pay is equal now. Term limits will never happen. Human rights? We have the constitution. Voter suppression is a myth.
None of these things you listed are nearly as important as legalized weed. Too many people rotting in a jail cell for simple marijuana possession. Ask some of these people if the myth of global warming is as important as their freedom.



All proof that you are, indeed an idiot. I will waste no more time. HANL.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby Cali Guy » Mon Apr 29, 8:47 pm

Bohannon wrote:I will waste no more time.






The threat he will be “moderated” is just more bullshit then?

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby Dazzler » Wed May 01, 3:06 pm

modern roots wrote:
Bohannon wrote:Erm, Global warming, pay parity, human rights, clean elections, term limits, doing away with: gerrymandering, vote suppression, Citizens Untied...just to name a few that are much higher on my list than the legal right to get high. Personally IDC if cannabis is ever legalized. Laws have not kept me from the ganja.


Get real, Bo, nobody cares about global warming. Pay is equal now. Term limits will never happen. Human rights? We have the constitution. Voter suppression is a myth.
None of these things you listed are nearly as important as legalized weed. Too many people rotting in a jail cell for simple marijuana possession. Ask some of these people if the myth of global warming is as important as their freedom.


Smug, ignorant cock-end.

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby slither » Wed May 08, 3:07 pm

Cat wrote:
Dazzler wrote:I predict O’Rourke selected, runs against Trump, Trump wins.

Bernie is your only hope if you don’t want another term of this piss-haired clown.


I'd like to vote for Bernie but sadly he keeps running as a Dem and not as an Independant. At best his candidacy has propagated more progressive concepts in recent years.

I'm quite fond of all the new progressive female members of Congress. Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib. Gutsy awesome fearless ladies. They scare the shit out of Republicans. More minorities please.

Now is the time to subvert the values of any and all Trump supporters.

Trump has given renewed voice to so many crazy fuckers in our society that I'll be amazed if we get through this election cycle with out attempts on candidates lives.


I've said it before and I will say it again: the only 2016 candidate more disliked than Trump was Hillary. That in itself is quite an accomplishment, given the quality of the GOP primary field.

In my estimation, the DNC and its candidates are like a circular firing squad - they cannot seem to ever get their shit together as a party. Had they done so and admitted the viability of and enthusiasm for Bernie at that time, they would have demanded that Hillary and Bernie run together. They would be in the White House right now had they the courage, wisdom and foresight to do so.

As far as the GOP, the election of Trump has brought the crazy out like never before in our lifetime. All manner of dire predictions and fearful emanations have ensued, regarding everything from the justice department, the judiciary and foreign relations to simple everyday things like truth, clarity and the NFL. My sense is the last gasp of WASPs, the Religious Right, Conservatism and straight up angry, intellectually dishonest white people is upon us. Nothing scares that particular tribe quite like passionate, articulate and dedicated young women of diverse ethnicity.


LBJ was correct, and it will only get worse before it improves.


May their demise be accelerated and may we move beyond all of the above as quickly as possible.


In the meantime, to quote Carlin, "Enjoy the show."




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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby Dazzler » Wed May 08, 3:23 pm

Who the hell is enjoying this?

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Re: Democrats Presidential Ticket 2020

Postby slither » Fri Jun 28, 6:52 pm

Confession: I did not watch either of the debates this week, but from what I have noticed in clips and highlights, gleaned from online reports and discerned from a bit of cable TV, the Democrats are in deep deep shit. The party missed its last best chance by not encouraging Hillary and Bernie to build a coalition and work together. They fucking blew it big time on that. Old news - but worth mentioning. Not one person at either debate has a serious, viable chance at capturing the independent, centrist majority that currently exists in this country and - as recent elections have proven - is pivotal to any majority electorate come time to actually vote.

Why?

Too much identity politics and victimization. Let's be clear: none of these candidates will step outside of the party comfort zone on these issues except for perhaps Bernie Sanders. Bernie is an Independent. He is an older white male past his prime, albeit with some great ideas. Elizabeth Warren also has some great ideas. Both she and Bernie have raised, debated and defended these ideas for quite some time. However, virtually all of the rest are either opportunists, also-rans or the "flavor of the moment." Booker? Please. Beto? Not a chance. Kamala? Nope. The game of the moment seems to be all about the takedown of Joe Biden - a man well-past his political expiration date - and then what?

Ideally, Bernie and Liz Warren have the policy ideas and name recognition to pull it off come election, but the independent voters will be the deciding factor. Maybe this is what we need. Even so, it is unlikely to happen because of their age, skin color and the nature of the DNC.

Just consider the dichotomy between AOC and Pelosi, for example. Pompous and old vs. pompous and naïve - great; but how does this advance the party?

It does not.

To be fair, the GOP is also heavily reliant on victimhood in its messaging, but the take is different. With the GOP, it is a factor of "us vs. them," and the intellectually dishonest hypocrisy of the evangelical bloc. That is really all they have. But to their credit, they know how to pull together and fall in line for the team. Consider Lindsey Graham? Marco Rubio? Ted Cruz?

If the independent voters vote en masse for anyone other than Trump, we may be fine.

If Trump has to deal with a challenge from the right, this could only help.

But: unless the DNC party faithful deviate from the road they are on at the moment (unlikely), Democratic voters will continue to be mired in the circular firing squad of the current crop of candidates, continue to wallow in the same tired old song and dance, and another four years of the orangutan is virtually assured.

It all hinges on the great unwashed middle - the extremes have come to dominate the party apparatus and the messaging on both sides, and only those voters strong enough and informed enough to call bullshit on the process can save us. Think about it.

GOP: 28%
Dems: 31%
Ind: 41%


Why does it have to be so difficult?

A pox on both of their houses.



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