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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby NewYork, New York » Thu Dec 20, 7:30 pm

Dazzler wrote:It's too late to stop Sessions anyway:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 33266.html

How much longer is that legal marijuana going to last, do you think?


Wrong again Dizzy.

Sessions is gone.

Legal weed is here to stay in the USA!

Shout if from the rooftops Dizzy.

Even NYC is considering Legal weed.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby NewYork, New York » Thu Dec 20, 7:32 pm

nemesystem wrote:lmao you can't make this shit up.....

And here I thought Melania was the communist lmao

As much as I want Trump to resign I can't help but laugh my ass off at how PATHETIC America has become.... Ignorance all around....dumb fucks on both sides of the political spectrum. However the conservatives willful ignorance is what gets me..... I guess praying to skyfather will get er done right?

smh


"conservatives willful ignorance is what gets me....."

However, Liberal, progressive and my favorite "Democratic socialists" like AOC willful ignorance,
you completely ignore?

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby Cat » Sun Dec 23, 11:32 am

As with Nixon, who will protect us from our temperamentally ill suited rogue President's more reckless impulses now that more reasonably minded bulwarks on the cabinet have resigned? All the grownups who understood international alliances and the risks of war inherent with nationalist movements are gone. Who will restrain him now?

We haven't seen the worse of Trump yet I fear.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby alpha » Mon Dec 24, 11:49 am

Cat wrote:We haven't seen the worse of Trump yet I fear.


We never see the worst of any prez until the last few weeks they have in power, for example Clinton's pardoning of Marc Rich comes to mind.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby slither » Sun Jan 13, 1:00 am

NewYork, New York wrote:
nemesystem wrote:lmao you can't make this shit up.....

And here I thought Melania was the communist lmao

As much as I want Trump to resign I can't help but laugh my ass off at how PATHETIC America has become.... Ignorance all around....dumb fucks on both sides of the political spectrum. However the conservatives willful ignorance is what gets me..... I guess praying to skyfather will get er done right?

smh


"conservatives willful ignorance is what gets me....."

However, Liberal, progressive and my favorite "Democratic socialists" like AOC willful ignorance,
you completely ignore?



Please stop.
The far left assumes it is intellectually superior to the atavistic moralists on the right, while the far right believes it is morally superior to the libertines on the left.

Most Americans are somewhere in between, have no real candidates for whom to vote and are thus condemned to vote for one or the other of two candidates put forth by the major parties. Candidates that do not represent true interests of their constituencies, but those of their party, their corporate benefactors and the partisans within their individual districts.

Do not pretend to believe otherwise. The corporate media and cable television thrive on it, and it will not get better any time soon.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby Dazzler » Sun Jan 13, 5:45 am

Hah.

You think 'the far left' has any representation in US politics, media or entertainment?

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby Cat » Sun Jan 13, 11:22 am

slither wrote:Most Americans are somewhere in between, have no real candidates for whom to vote and are thus condemned to vote for one or the other of two candidates put forth by the major parties.


On average, half of the eligible Americans don't even bother to vote or participate in the process. I have no idea what those people care about or want.
Most Americans also didn't give a toss about Watergate or bothered to follow the legal proceedings in 1973 as Nixon slowly immolated himself before our eyes.
Its no different with Trump. He's playing the same public opinion manipulation evasion tactics NIxon did, but on Feb. 7th MIchael Cohen will provide damning testimony before Congressional committee and the media and that should facilitate a possible Presidential resignation down the line if we're fortunate. And we're still waiting on Mueller and his investigation. I'm hopeful the combination of withering attacks will pay dividends, although VP Pence is a nauseating biblethumping asshole who would no doubt Gerald Ford-out and pardon Trump just the same.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby slither » Sun Jan 13, 4:11 pm

Dazzler wrote:Hah.

You think 'the far left' has any representation in US politics, media or entertainment?


Dazz. Don't be obtuse.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby slither » Sun Jan 13, 4:15 pm

Cat wrote:
slither wrote:Most Americans are somewhere in between, have no real candidates for whom to vote and are thus condemned to vote for one or the other of two candidates put forth by the major parties.


On average, half of the eligible Americans don't even bother to vote or participate in the process. I have no idea what those people care about or want.
Most Americans also didn't give a toss about Watergate or bothered to follow the legal proceedings in 1973 as Nixon slowly immolated himself before our eyes.
Its no different with Trump. He's playing the same public opinion manipulation evasion tactics NIxon did, but on Feb. 7th MIchael Cohen will provide damning testimony before Congressional committee and the media and that should facilitate a possible Presidential resignation down the line if we're fortunate. And we're still waiting on Mueller and his investigation. I'm hopeful the combination of withering attacks will pay dividends, although VP Pence is a nauseating biblethumping asshole who would no doubt Gerald Ford-out and pardon Trump just the same.


I think you missed the point.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby Cat » Sun Jan 13, 4:35 pm

My point was you can give the American people a proper candidate, and yet they still won't bother to participate in the election process.

Who owns Rep. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez of Jackson Height Queens? She doesn't appear to be beholding to her party or the corporate benefactors you described in your post. But then, Washington DC has a way of reeducating young idealistic Representatives to the House.

But back on topic, when I was a young man, my President at the time told me that as an American, I had the right to know whether or not my President was a crook.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby slither » Sun Jan 13, 7:20 pm

Cat wrote:My point was you can give the American people a proper candidate, and yet they still won't bother to participate in the election process.


Your point about participation is, woefully, completely on point and has a substantial basis in fact.


My point is that we have reached critical mass with regard to messaging and posturing, and now the ordinary business of governing is impossible.


Consider this from today's New York Times:

"The political class is now addicted to Manichaean conflict as a way of life,” Mr. Epstein said. “It’s become the mother’s milk — for base voters in both parties who together make up a minority share of voters, for cable television and for social media.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/13/us/po ... tdown.html

Again, my view is this is nothing new, and it has only worsened, exponentially so, during my lifetime. It may partially explain your point about participation - or voter apathy - but we are in deep at this point, it does not bode well for our country, and history provides many examples of where it might lead.

In my humble opinion, the screaming from the extremes is only amplified by corporate media and it sickens me to see how people can be so easily manipulated. Now, we cannot even agree on reality or facts, and the damage continues apace. We have a petulant buffoon in the White House, and two major political parties - two private corporations, mind you - engaged in an endless struggle for the "high ground," all buoyed by a corporate media structure that takes untenable and diametrically opposed positions and bombards the populace with story after story to such an extent that it is exhausting to follow, and for which most working Americans have no time but through which they are nonetheless infected.

Is it any wonder anxiety, fear and coarseness ensue?


Now, a shutdown, furloughed employees, and tax season right around the corner.


Have any of you taken a look at the new Form 1040? Do you do your own taxes? Do you rely on the home mortgage interest deduction? Do you understand the difference between the standard deduction and the credits for dependents? I hope I am wrong, but I predict more angst and frustration to come, and it affects everyone - no matter your political affiliation or views on government.

A 'proper candidate,' you say? Color me skeptical.


Sleep tight.


Cheers,

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby worldcitizen1723 » Mon Jan 14, 6:48 am

slith

you hit the nails directly on the head.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby alpha » Mon Jan 14, 7:13 am

slither wrote:
Dazzler wrote:Hah.

You think 'the far left' has any representation in US politics, media or entertainment?


Dazz. Don't be obtuse.


He's not, we haven't had a true liberal party since i was born. The demos were our conservative party, until they flip flopped for Rosevelt's new deal forcing the GOP to adopt the conservative side to maintain the facade of a two party system. However, the dimos flip flopped again, against the vp Wallace, when Rosy died. The dummos flip flopped again with Bernie Sanders, believing in Clinton instead. The democrats have always been the party that flip flops and i've never known a liberal democrat until JFK and his brother RFK but 'they' offed them in a hurry.

Our regime pretty much dictates to us and the people only appear to have political control at their state level, not the federal. Our politics have all been right wing since Rosevelt's death and the defeat of the pacifist Wallace and what's been endless war ever since, imho. Besides, who else would run their economy on a fiat money supply, that profits a handful of bankers and forever in-debts a society, than a right wing regime?

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby slither » Mon Jan 14, 11:48 pm

JFK was no Liberal.
You must have pulled a Rip van Winkle during the LBJ administration.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby alpha » Tue Jan 15, 4:38 pm

slither wrote:JFK was no Liberal.


He's the only liberal prez we've had since FDR. JFK was the only prez to stand up to the federal reserve, which likely got him murdered. He also wanted to end the Viet Nam war, which Johnson continued unabated. Kennedy flew in the face of our emerging deep state, which is far more right wing than even Hitler ever was.

slither wrote:You must have pulled a Rip van Winkle during the LBJ administration.


Not me, it's apparently you who's hibernating in that cave with Norks.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby Bohannon » Tue Jan 15, 6:59 pm

ALFA, where do you get your history? LBJ followed the policies and programs of JFK almost to the letter. The main difference was that LBJ was probably quite a bit more liberal. Saying it doesn't make it so,

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby slither » Wed Jan 16, 9:45 pm

alpha wrote:
slither wrote:JFK was no Liberal.


He's the only liberal prez we've had since FDR. JFK was the only prez to stand up to the federal reserve, which likely got him murdered. He also wanted to end the Viet Nam war, which Johnson continued unabated. Kennedy flew in the face of our emerging deep state, which is far more right wing than even Hitler ever was.

slither wrote:You must have pulled a Rip van Winkle during the LBJ administration.


Not me, it's apparently you who's hibernating in that cave with Norks.


The real JFK, Alf. Not the Oliver Stone version.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby slither » Wed Jan 16, 9:46 pm

Bohannon wrote:ALFA, where do you get your history? LBJ followed the policies and programs of JFK almost to the letter. The main difference was that LBJ was probably quite a bit more liberal. Saying it doesn't make it so,



Alf is a partisan. Can't you tell?

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby alpha » Thu Jan 17, 11:15 pm

Bohannon wrote:ALFA, where do you get your history? LBJ followed the policies and programs of JFK almost to the letter. The main difference was that LBJ was probably quite a bit more liberal. Saying it doesn't make it so,


It doesn't, but neither does denying it. Johnson escalated rather than ended the vietnam invasion, how was that a liberal act? Their financial economics were quite different too. However, searching the internet for differences between the two mostly brings up conspiracy theories that Johnson was involved with the bloody coup, which since the truth has been covered up wouldn't surprise me in the least. However, Johnson did prevail in instituting more federal expansion and control upon the people than any president before, or after, so i have to admit by american standards that was pretty darn liberal.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby Cat » Fri Jan 18, 8:33 pm

Nice history lesson chaps, now back on topic......
Nixon covertly thought he was above the law. And overthrowing the populist flavor of this era won't be easy but we can start by getting rid of President Trump who overtly thinks he's above the law.
Resignation or impeachment? I prefer resignation just to keep it simple. I wonder how long it will take for those GOP bootlickers to come around and realize Drumpf has got to go?

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby smokedpeppers » Fri Jan 18, 11:13 pm

Cat wrote:Nice history lesson chaps, now back on topic......
Nixon covertly thought he was above the law. And overthrowing the populist flavor of this era won't be easy but we can start by getting rid of President Trump who overtly thinks he's above the law.
Resignation or impeachment? I prefer resignation just to keep it simple. I wonder how long it will take for those GOP bootlickers to come around and realize Drumpf has got to go?


it's been 2yrs . where's the beef? . your obsession's starting to fuck with your head .
here's a interesting international view on the half cracka and his shenanigans in all this ...
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/01/t ... trump.html

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby nemesystem » Sun Jan 20, 12:20 am

lol speaking of shenanigans.... moonofalabama? really?

smh

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby modern roots » Sun Jan 20, 2:19 am

nemesystem wrote:lol speaking of shenanigans.... moonofalabama? really?

smh



Would it mean more to you coming from Fox news or MSNBC? It's an accurate description of what the half cracka did.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby smokedpeppers » Sun Jan 20, 2:47 am

nemesystem wrote:smh

sorry, i've searched msm diligently for more clarity on accusations but all it was gathering was a lot of verbiage
hard pressed to stand up and/or narrative recants . alt media at least give me a rebuttal to ponder .
bit like, prosecutor and defense attorney, these two medias . two versions of the same story . choice is a good thing .

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby nemesystem » Sun Jan 20, 3:51 am

modern roots wrote:
nemesystem wrote:lol speaking of shenanigans.... moonofalabama? really?

smh



Would it mean more to you coming from Fox news or MSNBC? It's an accurate description of what the half cracka did.



lol no why?

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby nemesystem » Sun Jan 20, 3:57 am

smokedpeppers wrote:
nemesystem wrote:smh

sorry, i've searched msm diligently for more clarity on accusations but all it was gathering was a lot of verbiage
hard pressed to stand up and/or narrative recants . alt media at least give me a rebuttal to ponder .
bit like, prosecutor and defense attorney, these two medias . two versions of the same story . choice is a good thing .


That's the problem searching MSM will get you no where. Yeah you may get a different version but in the end it's still the
Us vs them mentality.

moonofalabama is not what I would consider alt media... Alt right op-ed but not alt media...
Alt Media is like David Icke or Alex Jones.... Any nut job can start a wordpress snowflake blog site..but they all aren't like Jones or Icke.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby alpha » Sun Jan 20, 10:36 am

Cat wrote:Nixon covertly thought he was above the law. And overthrowing the populist flavor of this era won't be easy but we can start by getting rid of President Trump who overtly thinks he's above the law.


By being commander and chief of the armed forces he is definitely covertly above most of our laws. How many generals have we prosecuted for aiding and abetting isis, by giving them half a billion dollars in used armaments, weapons, ammunition and cash?

Cat wrote:Resignation or impeachment? I prefer resignation just to keep it simple.


You will have to pray for resignation, Cat. The article of impeachment can certainly be brought by the house, but it takes the republican held senate to vote on them. Think they'll betray their own to appease history?

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby Cat » Sun Jan 20, 11:27 am

When top GOP movers and shakers walk into the oval office and tell Trump its over, I think Trump would resign easily enough behind those closed doors. Get a pardon if necessary then go learn Russian.
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All it took was a final visit from Republican Senator Barry Goldwater to convince Nixon to bail. Which is ironic considering how unhinged Goldwater could be. I hope Trump gets his Goldwater moment.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby alpha » Sun Jan 20, 7:55 pm

Cat wrote:When top GOP movers and shakers walk into the oval office and tell Trump its over, I think Trump would resign easily enough behind those closed doors. Get a pardon if necessary then go learn Russian.


You've got the fever bad, Cat, but what are they gonna use, to get him to resign, Bury Goldwater's good looks? Perhaps illegally selling american uranium to the Russians? That was Hillary's bag and she's still walking free. The Clinton's have far more collusion with the Ruskies, so get over it already, most everybody else has.

Cat wrote:All it took was a final visit from Republican Senator Barry Goldwater to convince Nixon to bail. Which is ironic considering how unhinged Goldwater could be. I hope Trump gets his Goldwater moment.


He won't. He's done nothing unlawful. Nixon directed folks to break the law, over a break in that most people have no clue what they were after, but then mockingly tried to cover it up! Trump's only guilty of what all other prez's have done, which is to hire cabinet members to help them tear down the government, much like the mafia tearing down a business that's indebted to them. However, our money is fiat, so these despicable acts can be done again and again, generation after generation, with only a meek, ever changing populace watching in horror, as it occurs.

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Re: Donald Nixon

Postby Bohannon » Sun Jan 20, 10:31 pm

...and you are so misguided.


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