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The Mueller Report

Postby slither » Fri Apr 19, 5:03 am

What do you all think?
Have any of you looked at the redacted version currently available?

Apart from the predictable tribalism and posturing, there is truth and cause for genuine concern. Trump may have believed he was “fucked,” be we are absolutely fucked as a nation if we let these things slide by without further consideration and investigation.

It ceases to be funny.

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Postby Cat » Fri Apr 19, 10:40 am

Who amongst the Democrats taking on our corrupt administration will be the new Sen. Samuel James Ervin, Jr.? That's what I want to know. I hope he or she steps up quickly.

We've heard enough from AG Barr. I wouldn't give that Trump hack more airtime. Get Mueller to testify before a Congressional Committee asap. If any impeachment intervention is to be made, it has to be done soon.

I'm putting my faith in Rep. Jerry Nadler for now. He appears to have Sam Ervin's integrity.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby modern roots » Fri Apr 19, 7:57 pm

Cat wrote: If any impeachment intervention is to be made, it has to be done soon.


Impeachment intervention?

Do you think Trump will be impeached because of the Mueller Report?
Because I don't.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Rudy » Fri Apr 19, 8:45 pm

Where the hell is NYNY when you need him?
I`m sure he could make some sense out of all this.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Cat » Fri Apr 19, 9:15 pm

modern roots wrote:Do you think Trump will be impeached because of the Mueller Report?
Because I don't.


You may be right. Presidential censorship is one other option. A public congressional repremand but it has no legal consequences so thats pretty
weak and Trump would scoff it off. The Mueller Report is as you've heard, a roadmap for impeachment.

No punishment at all sets a depressing precident that clears the way for future additional abuses of power with future Chief Executives. We never run out of authoritarian scoundrels do we? They keep turning and always will. I expect this is an opportunity to do whats right for future Americans. Baby Boomers aren't leaving a very good legacy as it is.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Bohannon » Sat Apr 20, 3:01 pm

Dumbocraps would be wise to follow the "road map" to impeachment that Mueller outlined BUT...stop prior to the actual impeachment vote...let the russians and the voters take over...see how you fare. Timing is everything.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Banks » Sun Apr 21, 12:08 am

Rudy wrote:Where the hell is NYNY when you need him?
I`m sure he could make some sense out of all this.

Darkweb search for Norks follows to... "William Barr" ...

We're fucked...

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Cali Guy » Sun Apr 21, 5:59 pm

Cat wrote:Who amongst the Democrats taking on our corrupt administration will be the new Sen. Samuel James Ervin, Jr.? That's what I want to know. I hope he or she steps up quickly.

We've heard enough from AG Barr. I wouldn't give that Trump hack more airtime. Get Mueller to testify before a Congressional Committee asap. If any impeachment intervention is to be made, it has to be done soon.

I'm putting my faith in Rep. Jerry Nadler for now. He appears to have Sam Ervin's integrity.





For the longest time we only had BOhannon working hard to give affluent white peoples problems a voice.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby slither » Tue Apr 23, 9:39 pm

Read for yourselves:

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

It is quick and easy to download. The final words are as follows:



IV. CONCLUSION
Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President's conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.
(Volume II, Page 182)

Seems pretty clear to me.
Fuck Bill Barr and the Trump administration.

This is no "Deep State" conspiracy, and the only individuals it exonerates - better yet vindicates - are the journalists and justice department - certainly not the Trump cabal.


Moreover, this should be continually investigated on all fronts: via the legislative committees and the SDNY. Impeachment would be a waste of time; a matter of symbolism over substance. We need to get as many of these fuckers out into the open as possible and let the chips fall where they may. I am betting reality will win out, eventually, if we do. Hillary should shut the fuck up and go away, Nancy should keep a low profile and do her job, the law in New York should continue its investigation(s) and the House Committees should push ahead full speed and nonstop with subpoena after subpoena until Trump, his family, the Fox News connection and Russian election fuckery are all exposed to the fullest extent possible.


Tick tock . . . .

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby modern roots » Wed Apr 24, 2:11 am

I'm bored with it.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Cat » Wed Apr 24, 10:28 am

I'm for impeachment. Otherwise, its a just a non stop psy-ops process with no punishment.

America is moving to right. It has been for decades. Both parties are to blame.

We can chew gum and walk so I'd prefer getting on with harrassing our Chief Narcissist all the way to a house impeachment vote whilst promoting liberal policies for the future.

Why all yellow caution flags? Trump has people cowed and we can't allow that.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby slither » Wed Apr 24, 2:04 pm

I am not against impeachment, just more in favor of completely overturning the rock under which these grifters and their enablers are hiding, and criminal prosecution for all to the fullest extent possible.
This is what they fear. Sunlight, truth and accountability.

Nixon did not care until it became obvious that the truth was out and he had nowhere to hide. And Nixon was an amateur compared to Trump and today’s GOP.

Trump will use impeachment as a martyrdom tactic - the rule of law will “fuck” him, and he knows it. There will be no resurrection of his billionaire schtick once he leaves office.

To the extent we can do both, fine. But let’s not lose sight of the fact that the GOP Senate will never convict.

I am betting that the courts of law will.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Dazzler » Fri Apr 26, 6:49 am

Rolling Stone in ‘not even wrong’ shocker.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby slither » Fri Apr 26, 1:41 pm

Taibbi is an idiot who posits bullshit because he has a book to promote.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Cat » Fri Apr 26, 3:59 pm

smokedpeppers wrote:https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russiagate-fiasco-taibbi-news-media-826246/amp/


Matt Taibbi accepted Attorney General Barr's summary of the Mueller report before the full report was released. You can do your own digging to validate my point if you like. Its out there.

I'd appreciate it if you could provide some original thoughts on your links and what is contained within when you post them. If you actually are capable of any original thoughts that is.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby smokedpeppers » Sat Apr 27, 1:44 am

when progressive talking head says msm screwed up and 45 was right, i thought that worth posting .

remember when original premise was russian collusion, downgraded to water sports and who knows what now .
but msm found a cash cow and a whole group of gullible fucks to help feed/milk .... the rest is developing history .
45's lease is up in 1.5 . i for one plan to move along with life and occasionally reflect and snicker at this folly .

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Postby a bollocks » Sat Apr 27, 4:45 am

smokedpeppers wrote:when progressive talking head says msm screwed up and 45 was right, i thought that worth posting .

remember when original premise was russian collusion, downgraded to water sports and who knows what now .
but msm found a cash cow and a whole group of gullible fucks to help feed/milk .... the rest is developing history .
45's lease is up in 1.5 . i for one plan to move along with life and occasionally reflect and snicker at this folly .


you left out fake news, you dick.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Cat » Sat Apr 27, 12:47 pm

Oddly, he also left out "the jews will not replace us". Possible cognitive defect. Seems to be a common deficit amongst the Trump mob.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby alpha » Tue Jul 02, 6:19 am

Bohannon wrote:Dumbocraps would be wise to follow the "road map" to impeachment that Mueller outlined BUT...stop prior to the actual impeachment vote...let the russians and the voters take over...see how you fare. Timing is everything.


Certainly does if this pdf file is true? i don't know how to check the veracity of a pdf file, anyone? However, if true, it would certainly explain why this investigation ended when and the way it did and likely why Mueller was reluctant to testify.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby slither » Tue Jul 02, 8:17 pm

Please.

Get help.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby smokedpeppers » Wed Jul 03, 1:51 pm

loooong read to wrap your head around but was a time george orwells writings were considered fiction .

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby slither » Wed Jul 03, 3:46 pm

smokedpeppers wrote:loooong read to wrap your head around but was a time george orwells writings were considered fiction .



Down the rabbit hole, eh?

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Re: The Mueller Report

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Dazzler » Fri Jul 05, 4:22 pm

Happy belated Independence Day, US Channelers.

Shame your president is a tyrannical fucknut.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Rudy » Fri Jul 05, 7:37 pm

Word.

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby slither » Fri Jul 05, 9:21 pm

Seconded.

I am curious as to the pending House testimony, especially knowing the GOP will try and discredit him. It would be nice to see Mueller stuff Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows. Especially now that Amash has repudiated the party and gone independent

It is small stuff, but some of us will take what we can get.


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