War in Europe

[Hobie]

Some of these barbarian Ruskie Ivans make Hitler's Einsatzgruppen look like altar boys. wtf

Reinhard Heydrich would be proud that his legacy of war crimes efficiency endures to this day.

The story of Reinhard in Praha ,CZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whHbN8-E5Lg

[alpha]

Author's credits below:
"Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo."

"Part One: The Road To War

For years, from Mali to Afghanistan, I have worked for peace and risked my life for it. It is therefore not a question of justifying war, but of understanding what led us to it. I notice that the “experts” who take turns on television analyze the situation on the basis of dubious information, most often hypotheses erected as facts—and then we no longer manage to understand what is happening. This is how panics are created.

The problem is not so much to know who is right in this conflict, but to question the way our leaders make their decisions.

Let’s try to examine the roots of the conflict. It starts with those who for the last eight years have been talking about “separatists” or “independentists” from Donbass. This is not true. The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in May 2014, were not referendums of “independence” (независимость), as some unscrupulous journalists have claimed, but referendums of “self-determination” or “autonomy” (самостоятельность). The qualifier “pro-Russian” suggests that Russia was a party to the conflict, which was not the case, and the term “Russian speakers” would have been more honest."

At the author's link he gives a very good accounting of the history leading up to this crises and what's actually occurring on the ground in the Ukraine and it's likely not what you've been led to believe, after having read this thread.

[Cat]

It not complicated. We have a war in Europe due to the ego of Putin. See how easy that was?

[Cat]

Their grandfathers raped a million women in Berlin at the end of the ww2 in 1945, and now Russia's young conscripts continue to live to up to type with they're war crimes in the Ukraine. Must be something in the culture.

[Dazzler]

I don't think so. Nazi and Allied troops also did plenty of that. Every army that ever fought in a war did that. It's a tactic of war.

[Cat]

I don't think so. Nazi and Allied troops also did plenty of that. Every army that ever fought in a war did that. It's a tactic of war.

No modern military compares to the Russians when it comes to troubling the women folk. I've seen the stats.

[modern roots]

Seems like they're to busy burying the dead in mass graves to rape anyone. Besides, I thought a good number of the women and children fled the country.
What are they doing, raping dead bodies?

[Cali Guy]

No modern military compares to the Russians when it comes to troubling the women folk. I've seen the stats.

“troubling the women folk” lol

[Cat]

Russian men trying to avoid conscription are being met at the border with draft notices. All American/Russian dual nationals are under threat of conscription as well.

Security Alert for U.S. Citizens in Russia

U.S. Embassy Moscow, Russia (September 27, 2022)

Event: On September 21, the Russian government began a mobilization of its citizens to the armed forces in support of its invasion of Ukraine. Russia may refuse to acknowledge dual nationals’ U.S. citizenship, deny their access to U.S. consular assistance, prevent their departure from Russia, and conscript dual nationals for military service.

Commercial flight options are extremely limited at present and are often unavailable on short notice. Overland routes by car and bus are still open. If you wish to depart Russia, you should make independent arrangements as soon as possible. The U.S. Embassy has severe limitations on its ability to assist U.S. citizens, and conditions, including transportation options, may suddenly become even more limited.

U.S. citizens should not travel to Russia and those residing or travelling in Russia should depart Russia immediately while limited commercial travel options remain. The Department of State provides information on commercial travel on the Information for U.S. Citizens in Russia – Travel Options Out of Russia page on travel.state.gov. This site also provides information on requirements for entering neighboring countries, procedures for travel on expired U.S. passports in some circumstances, and visa requirements for families with American and Russian citizen family members.

We remind U.S. citizens that the right to peaceful assembly and freedom of expression are not guaranteed in Russia. Avoid all political or social protests and do not photograph security personnel at these events. Russian authorities have arrested U.S. citizens who have participated in demonstrations.

[modern roots]

It's a sad day when men are to chickenshit to fight for their country.

I'm disappointed with the Russian men. I thought they were brave and patriotic.

[MileHighDenver]

Remembering Vietnam. I’d II gone to Canada.

[Cat]

I'd hang on to those iodine tablets just in case. Perhaps someone will assassinate Putin so things don't get too much worse.

[Cat]

NATO is a joke compared to the military might of Putin's Russia.

Still think so? heh

[modern roots]

NATO is a joke compared to the military might of Putin's Russia.

Still think so? heh

NATO hasn't done anything, it's been the U.S. supplying weapons.

[Banks]

Remembering Vietnam. I’d II gone to Canada.

Good lord... the only guys I know that still make that comment are the guys who never actually faced getting drafted.

[Dazzler]

It's a sad day when men are to chickenshit to fight for their country.

I'm disappointed with the Russian men. I thought they were brave and patriotic.

They’re not fighting for their country. It’s an illegal imperialist war of agression you fucking dipshit.

You’re not very good at this are you? Perhaps you can go back to the other thread defending the use of children for right-wing propaganda purposes.

You were shit at that too, but you seemed to enjoy applogism for the political abuse of children more. You spent a lot of words on it after all.

[Bohannon]

"modern roots wrote:
It's a sad day when men are TO chickenshit to fight for their country.

Learn English please.

[modern roots]

It's a sad day when men are to chickenshit to fight for their country.

I'm disappointed with the Russian men. I thought they were brave and patriotic.

You’re not very good at this are you? Perhaps you can go back to the other thread defending the use of children for right-wing propaganda purposes.

You were shit at that too, but you seemed to enjoy applogism for the political abuse of children more. You spent a lot of words on it after all.

You've been lied to so long that the truth is your enemy. When you hear the truth you've been brainwashed to reply with puke and vomit words like fascist, nazi, bootlicker, racist, bigot, xenophobe, apologist, and the absolute worst of all?..."the children" horseshit!

Instead of responding directly to something you let it bleed over into an unrelated thread to get your "cheap shots" in. You're void of truth and reason. All you know how to do is hurl insults and unfounded criticisms. You try to stay on the offensive with your attacks and lies because you know you believe in a bunch of lies that will ultimately destroy any country or nation that continues to go down those avenues. It's been demonstrated and documented. So you go ahead and spew your lies and I'll just keep putting you in your place.

[Dazzler]

It's a sad day when men are to chickenshit to fight for their country.

I'm disappointed with the Russian men. I thought they were brave and patriotic.

You’re not very good at this are you? Perhaps you can go back to the other thread defending the use of children for right-wing propaganda purposes.

You were shit at that too, but you seemed to enjoy applogism for the political abuse of children more. You spent a lot of words on it after all.

You've been lied to so long that the truth is your enemy. When you hear the truth you've been brainwashed to reply with puke and vomit words like fascist, nazi, bootlicker, racist, bigot, xenophobe, apologist, and the absolute worst of all?..."the children" horseshit!

Cry moar.