Summit sums it dumb 'n numb it

[alpha]

Any comments on the upcoming summit between sleepy joe and the leader he was goaded into calling a killer? Imo, if it occurs it will prove to be as insignificant as our sleepy joe is, which against international law is pretty dang insignificant. Rules based world order and it's criminally insane leadership is finally being told where to shove it, as gently as possible.

Perhaps what'll be more interesting are joe's other 'summits' around Europe mostly explaining why he teamed with the Danes to spy on everyone, when he was merely vp, but up to his eyeballs in the scandal. Most interesting, indeed, but'll undoubtedly be banned from eeuu msm for it's embarrassing content.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/ ... -cold-war/

[modern roots]

It's all a dog and pony show, alpha. Just a never ending circus of politics. But, what did you expect?

[Rudy]

I've got to wonder who will make the bigger splash though when carelessly tossed into a pot.

sleepy joe or ignorant alpha?

I'm thinking shitty sally has us all beat.

[alpha]

I've got to wonder who will make the bigger splash though when carelessly tossed into a pot.

sleepy joe or ignorant alpha?

Knowing our psychopathic 'intelligence' community all too well, sleepy joe could get whacked along with Putin and then try and blame it on a third party. Not much any other reason for the two to meet, is there? Certainly not over diplomacy, sleepy joe's been an empty vessel in that department for decades. However, alpha's state legalizes two weeks after this summit and what won't be carelessly tossed into the pot are the first seeds i'll be able to legally grow in the great outdoors, ever!

Enjoy y'all's summer Rudy, appears it could be a doozy.

[alpha]

Below is a quote from the website Moon of Alabama, from a regular commenter there, by Professor Brenner. Much of what you read might be a bit confusing since much was never picked up by america's msm, but what he states is accurate from a historical standpoint and he goes on to explain what both countries would like to take away from this upcoming summit next week.

Biden, long the absentee overseer of Ukraine under Obama, backed a plan to put an end to the secessionist, Russified provinces of Lugansk and Donetsk in the Donbass. It was seen as a way to discipline Vladimir Putin whose interference in Syria and blood-minded actions elsewhere irritated American policy-makers, to complete Russia’s isolation (along with an overthrow of the Belarus government), and to solidify NATO/EU control of the European continent.
Washington expanded its program of arming and training the Ukrainian army arm and militias (including the neo-Nazi Azov battalion), gave President (and ex-comedian) President Vladimir Zielenski the green light to move his military to the contact line, and led an orchestrated denunciation of Russia and all its work loudly reinforced by the ever-obedient chorus of European dependents. Biden himself struck the tone in declaring that Putin was a ‘killer.’ It was classic coercion via military intimidation – although hardly classic in insulting your opponent unless you follow up with a bugle call for attack. The entire project is now in ruins – a miserable failure. The ‘why’ carries heavy – if unrecognized – lessons.

The Kremlin had given clear signs that it no longer was going to turn the other cheek to what it saw as hostile, belittling Western moves. The eastward expansion of NATO right to Russia’s border, the Washington approved Georgian assault on South Ossetia by American trained/advised forces, the color revolutions culminating in the American instigated Nuland coup in Kiev that toppled a democratically elected President, undocumented accusations of meddling in the tranquil waters of American politics, the repeated sanctions, the relentless campaign to sabotage Nordstrom II etc. etc. Those clear signs were ignored, as are all other facts that don’t conform with the self-serving, self-deluding Washington narrative. There, gross misinterpretations of conditions in Russia prevail.

They truly believe that Navalny is the country’s great white hope when in truth his modest support lies only among the liberal intelligensia of Moscow and St. Petersburg. Putin’s popularity, especially in regard to relations with the West, is undiminished. The public fully backs Putin. Moreover, he is at the ’soft’ end of a continuum among political elites - including officials within his government. Hence, his response to the renewed threat to the Donbass was quick and decisive. He deployed 75,000 heavily armed army units with supporting air power to the border while Lavrov stated baldly that any offensive by the Ukrainians would be met with overwhelming force, and that would mean the destruction of the current Ukrainian regime.

[The call up of a five divisions strong battle ready force within 10 days, which NATO is unable to match in size and speed, had the desired effects:]

The United States and its allies had no counter; they had to back down. Within days, Biden made an impromptu call to ‘killer’ Putin calling for a relaxing of tensions while looking forward to stable, predictable relations between their two countries. That week, Blinken flew to Kiev to bluntly tell Zelenski to call it all off. If that meant throwing him to the ultra-nationalist wolves in Kiev, he always had his comedian gig to fall back on. Great power politics as burlesque!

There was a dawning awareness that contending with a fully aroused Russia, in Europe and elsewhere, was no piece of cake. It followed that the United States should not be conducting all-out ‘Cold War’ with China and Russia simultaneously. Since China was the much greater challenger to American global hegemony, somehow working out a tacit modus vivendi, or, at least, ceasefire, with Moscow was called for. That should have been obvious for at least the past 12 years to anyone with a strategic brain. Instead, American leaders had done everything possible to solidify a Sino-Russian alliance as has materialized in their ‘strategic partnership’ which grows in strength and confidence by the day.
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The abject failure in Ukraine (simultaneously with the thwarted attempt to overthrow Lukashenko in Belarus) shook Washington’s unbounded self-confidence enough for it to recognize the error of its ways.

A series of moves in Europe signaled the intention to change course. The announced dispatch of a naval battle group to the Black Sea was summarily cancelled, pressure on Germany to prevent the completion of Nordstrom II was lifted, and the plans for a Ukrainian attack on the Donbass was abruptly dumped. Biden clearly intends next week’s meeting with Putin in Geneva as a crucial step paving the way for a tempering of the hostility that has marked relations between Washington and Moscow. The hope is that the gestures noted above combined with an expressed readiness to work together on handful of contentious issues can mollify Russian antagonism toward the West. That, in turn, could cool its enthusiasm for the strategic partnership with Beijing – making it easier for the U.S. to concentrate on its struggle for global supremacy with China while weakening the latter’s hand.

The ploy is doomed to failure.

[It indeed is. The last 30 years have shown that Russia can absolutely not trust Washington whatever it might promise. Its partnership with China though is solid.]

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Anyone wanting a further and deeper understanding of what's occurring should click the above link and read the entire article.

[modern roots]

You really get into geopolitics, don't you, alpha?
It's all nonsense to me.

[alpha]

It's a whole lot of nonsense, to far too many americans, modern roots. Our leaders and their handlers prefer us in that state, because there's much less chance of rebellion, but if one did occur, there'd be such disarray only chaos would ensue.

The link below is to both a video and transcript of an interview NBC corresponding Keir Simmons conducts with Russian president Vladimir Putin about his upcoming summit with president biden. Quite telling how exceptional nbc believes america is.

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/65861

If you want to understand Russia's positions on a variety of issues, likely to be discussed during the summit this interview is for you.