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Postby Bohannon » Fri Jan 08, 1:12 pm

modern roots wrote:I bet if I had said mandatory health insurance you would have understood. I believe insurance is the choice of the individual.

Why not address the cost of services.


Is payment for services rendered also "the choice of the individual" or do we all pay for the uninsured freeloaders?

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Postby Dazzler » Fri Jan 08, 5:02 pm

modern roots wrote:I bet if I had said mandatory health insurance you would have understood. I believe insurance is the choice of the individual.

Why not address the cost of services.


Single-payer is HOW you address the cost of services.

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Postby modern roots » Fri Jan 08, 6:24 pm

Bohannon wrote:
modern roots wrote:I bet if I had said mandatory health insurance you would have understood. I believe insurance is the choice of the individual.

Why not address the cost of services.


Is payment for services rendered also "the choice of the individual" or do we all pay for the uninsured freeloaders?


You're paying for insured freeloaders right now with Medicaid. People in my state that qualify for Medicaid don't pay a monthly premium, it is "given" to them for free! Are you concerned about these freeloaders?

The payment for services rendered for people without insurance should be set up by monthly payments, just like a car or house loan. This is if they can't afford to pay in full.

You still haven't addressed the enormous costs of these hospital services. Don't you think capitalism is better served for the Amazons, Walmarts, and car manufacturers of the world instead of for a dying patient?

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Postby modern roots » Fri Jan 08, 6:27 pm

Dazzler wrote:
modern roots wrote:I bet if I had said mandatory health insurance you would have understood. I believe insurance is the choice of the individual.

Why not address the cost of services.


Single-payer is HOW you address the cost of services.


How does a single-payer health insurance system address the cost of services? I can see how it would bring down insurance premiums by offering a sliding scale of a monthly premium by income, but I don't see how single-payer would address the cost of a hospital stay or surgery.

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Re: New Topic

Postby Bohannon » Sat Jan 09, 2:05 pm

"The payment for services rendered for people without insurance should be set up by monthly payments, just like a car or house loan. This is if they can't afford to pay in full."


Mandatory payment?

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Postby modern roots » Sat Jan 09, 6:22 pm

I bet people that file for bankruptcy really burn you up.

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Postby Rudy » Sat Jan 09, 6:24 pm

Bohannon wrote:"The payment for services rendered for people without insurance should be set up by monthly payments, just like a car or house loan. This is if they can't afford to pay in full."


Mandatory payment?


Absolutely! With a Debtors Prison for those who fail to achieve
the financial requirements of the Stalag's administrators.
Work camps will also be generously provided for those who desire to expedite their
period of incarceration and re-enlightenment.

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Postby MileHighDenver » Sat Jan 09, 7:24 pm

Rudy wrote:
Bohannon wrote:"The payment for services rendered for people without insurance should be set up by monthly payments, just like a car or house loan. This is if they can't afford to pay in full."


Mandatory payment?


Absolutely! With a Debtors Prison for those who fail to achieve
the financial requirements of the Stalag's administrators.
Work camps will also be generously provided for those who desire to expedite their
period of incarceration and re-enlightenment.

And satisfaction of said debt of course. Plus interest.

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Re: New Topic

Postby Bohannon » Sun Jan 10, 1:47 pm

in other words...a mandate...lol

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Postby MileHighDenver » Sun Jan 10, 2:22 pm

Bohannon wrote:in other words...a man date...lol


Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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Re: New Topic

Postby modern roots » Sun Jan 10, 6:20 pm

How much are health insurance companies worth? Any idea? Billions? Trillions? You think funneling them money is going to fix healthcare? Boy, you are touched in the head. Sit down and think a while and then come back and try again with another suggestion.

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Postby Dazzler » Mon Jan 11, 9:32 am

modern roots wrote:
Dazzler wrote:
modern roots wrote:I bet if I had said mandatory health insurance you would have understood. I believe insurance is the choice of the individual.

Why not address the cost of services.


Single-payer is HOW you address the cost of services.


How does a single-payer health insurance system address the cost of services? I can see how it would bring down insurance premiums by offering a sliding scale of a monthly premium by income, but I don't see how single-payer would address the cost of a hospital stay or surgery.


Because a single payer exerts downward pressure on prices due to its volume bargaining power, rather than a small number of purchasers being played off by an oligopoly of medical suppliers.

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Postby modern roots » Mon Jan 11, 7:51 pm

Dazzler wrote:
modern roots wrote:
Dazzler wrote:
modern roots wrote:I bet if I had said mandatory health insurance you would have understood. I believe insurance is the choice of the individual.

Why not address the cost of services.


Single-payer is HOW you address the cost of services.


How does a single-payer health insurance system address the cost of services? I can see how it would bring down insurance premiums by offering a sliding scale of a monthly premium by income, but I don't see how single-payer would address the cost of a hospital stay or surgery.


Because a single payer exerts downward pressure on prices due to its volume bargaining power, rather than a small number of purchasers being played off by an oligopoly of medical suppliers.


You don't have a clue. It won't bring prices down. Prices will go up. Just look how prices went up instead of down with Obamacare.

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Re: New Topic

Postby Dazzler » Tue Jan 12, 5:04 pm

Obamacare isn't a single-payer system.

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Postby modern roots » Wed Jan 13, 3:06 am

No, I suppose it isn't. Theoretically, prices should go down.

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Re: New Topic

Postby Dazzler » Wed Jan 13, 10:14 am

Are you really this clueless or are you just being a bellshaft?

I mean, I get paid for sitting here. What's your motivation?

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Re: New Topic

Postby modern roots » Wed Jan 13, 6:56 pm

Notice I said theoretically!! May not work that way in the real world.

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Re: New Topic

Postby modern roots » Sun Feb 14, 1:27 am

LOL!! Trump was acquitted!!! The Democrats had nothing, zero, zilch, nada. Now move along. Nothing to see here.

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Re: New Topic

Postby Dazzler » Mon Feb 15, 12:44 am

Trump was clearly guilty. Your political process is corrupt to the core.

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Re: New Topic

Postby Dazzler » Mon Feb 15, 9:44 am

I mean, America is going to fall to fascism and this is why.

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Re: New Topic

Postby Cat » Mon Feb 15, 4:04 pm

The old America is dying and MAGA exemplifies it's death throes.

Its a good sign that the usual monsters are out as it means the brewing social and political change is real and not hyperbole. Anyone disagree?

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Re: New Topic

Postby modern roots » Tue Feb 16, 2:11 am

I'll believe old America is dying when we have $15 minimum wage, nationwide legalized cannabis, affordable (under $20k) electric cars for everyone, meaningful gun control, and military bases abroad are closed and the troops are home working in a private job and off the government dole. Until then, it's just business as usual.

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Re: New Topic

Postby Dazzler » Tue Feb 16, 9:36 am

What's so good about private jobs?

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Re: New Topic

Postby modern roots » Wed Feb 17, 4:35 pm

Just like I already said...get off the government dole and my dime.
Our military is too expansive and too big and the defense budget is unacceptable and needs to be cut in half, at least!


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