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Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby Generous_J » Thu Feb 09, 5:23 pm

For Shame. Theresa May excuses this callous act as 'we are giving financial donations to Syria'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... d-refugees

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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby des » Thu Feb 09, 9:11 pm

Generous_J wrote:For Shame. Theresa May excuses this callous act as 'we are giving financial donations to Syria'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... d-refugees


How many refugees has Ireland taken in?

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Postby Generous_J » Thu Feb 09, 11:55 pm

des wrote:
Generous_J wrote:For Shame. Theresa May excuses this callous act as 'we are giving financial donations to Syria'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... d-refugees


How many refugees has Ireland taken in?

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Fuck all really. We have only a few hundred right now but we have commited to taking 1800 (still fuck all).

The point is that we havent put a refugee ban on lost children. And we wont.

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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby smokedpeppers » Fri Feb 10, 2:02 am

governments tend to put the guilt factor on its people after a military fuck up . happened state side after vietnam, was quite the brouhaha at the time . forty plus years after the fact, people seem to have assimilated .

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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby chigusa » Fri Feb 10, 9:32 am

des wrote:
Generous_J wrote:For Shame. Theresa May excuses this callous act as 'we are giving financial donations to Syria'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... d-refugees


How many refugees has Ireland taken in?

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fucking hell, des. that's exactly the way nyny argues. don't do that, man. fucking hell.
whatever point you are going to make about these children, make the fucker.

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Postby Generous_J » Fri Feb 10, 10:12 am

smokedpeppers wrote:governments tend to put the guilt factor on its people after a military fuck up . happened state side after vietnam, was quite the brouhaha at the time . forty plus years after the fact, people seem to have assimilated .


Whats that got do with anything?

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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby des » Fri Feb 10, 10:42 am

chigusa wrote:
des wrote:
Generous_J wrote:For Shame. Theresa May excuses this callous act as 'we are giving financial donations to Syria'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... d-refugees


How many refugees has Ireland taken in?

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fucking hell, des. that's exactly the way nyny argues. don't do that, man. fucking hell.
whatever point you are going to make about these children, make the fucker.


My point is, he's a bit of a cheeky cunt having a pop at the UK government when his own is doing sweet fuck all themselves!

Anyhow, as I understand it, we'll still be taking refugees, but only from the camps in and surrounding Syria!

Makes sense to me too! ... Help the most needy while disincentivizing the people smugglers!


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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby des » Fri Feb 10, 3:37 pm

Generous_J wrote:http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/ballaghaderreen-builds-welcome-wall-for-syrian-refugees-1.2969920


80? ... Big deal!

Get back to me when you've been anywhere near as welcoming as we have!


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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby Generous_J » Fri Feb 10, 3:41 pm

You are still missing the point Des - Britain is not taking vulnerable children.

You dont get it. Britain is changing. It's no longer making a positive contribution in helping people who need it. Children without parents and families. They are innocent and are living in shitty refugee cities, playing in the mud.

It could also be looked at in a different way insofar as the wars waged by Britain (Afghanistan/ Iraq/ Lybia) have destabilised the region and precipitated this crisis and now Britain want to was their hands of it.

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Postby Generous_J » Sat Feb 11, 2:19 am

As an afterthought, i'd be intersted to see the opinions from the Americans on this too.

I fear that many on here would happily reject child refugees too. Sad state of affairs: the reality of what the world is coming to, the 'civilized West'.

Interjecting in local politics the world over but when the problems come home to roost - 'not my problem'.

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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby des » Sat Feb 11, 11:46 am

Generous_J wrote:You are still missing the point Des - Britain is not taking vulnerable children.

You dont get it. Britain is changing. It's no longer making a positive contribution in helping people who need it. Children without parents and families. They are innocent and are living in shitty refugee cities, playing in the mud.

It could also be looked at in a different way insofar as the wars waged by Britain (Afghanistan/ Iraq/ Lybia) have destabilised the region and precipitated this crisis and now Britain want to was their hands of it.


If kids you are referencing are living in shitty refugee camps in Europe, shouldn't you be berating your chums in the EU?

If you're talking in general, then I agree, we should be doing more!

I'd be happy to see genuine refugee families and children resettled in the UK!

I take it you're lobbying your own government to to up its commitment from 80 to tens of thousands?

By the way, don't try hanging a guilt trip round my neck! It annoyed the fuck out of me seeing British soldiers being killed and injured in conflicts that had fuck all to do with us!


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Postby Generous_J » Sat Feb 11, 3:56 pm

des wrote:If you're talking in general, then I agree, we should be doing more!

I'd be happy to see genuine refugee families and children resettled in the UK!


Good, we're agreed then.

des wrote:I take it you're lobbying your own government to to up its commitment from 80 to tens of thousands?


There are already a few hundred here. Those 80 in that article are just one new group. The commitmebt at the moment is 1800, which I agree is not impressive. I'm not lobbying anyone, i'm just moaning behind closed doors - it's the Irish way.

des wrote:By the way, don't try hanging a guilt trip round my neck! It annoyed the fuck out of me seeing British soldiers being killed and injured in conflicts that had fuck all to do with us!


I'm not trying to hang it on your neck. My whole point all along is that it's bad, mean spiritied policy from the UK government. If I understand your above post correctly, it seems we are in agreement on that. If so, good!

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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby des » Sat Feb 11, 4:17 pm

Generous_J wrote:
des wrote:If you're talking in general, then I agree, we should be doing more!

I'd be happy to see genuine refugee families and children resettled in the UK!


Good, we're agreed then.

des wrote:I take it you're lobbying your own government to to up its commitment from 80 to tens of thousands?


There are already a few hundred here. Those 80 in that article are just one new group. The commitmebt at the moment is 1800, which I agree is not impressive. I'm not lobbying anyone, i'm just moaning behind closed doors - it's the Irish way.

des wrote:By the way, don't try hanging a guilt trip round my neck! It annoyed the fuck out of me seeing British soldiers being killed and injured in conflicts that had fuck all to do with us!


I'm not trying to hang it on your neck. My whole point all along is that it's bad, mean spiritied policy from the UK government. If I understand your above post correctly, it seems we are in agreement on that. If so, good!


By 'we' I meant the international community!

If the British are mean spirited, what does that make the Irish?


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Postby des » Sat Feb 11, 7:58 pm

Generous_J wrote:Image


I might be labouring the point but I won't let anti-British hate spew go unchallenged!

We've welcomed over a 117,000 refugees, while the Irish have accepted a measly couple of hundred and we're being made out to be the cunts?

If you were a German I might accept a lecture, but as it is you can shove your hypocrisy up your arse!


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Postby Generous_J » Sat Feb 11, 8:46 pm

des wrote:I might be labouring the point but I won't let anti-British hate spew go unchallenged!

We've welcomed over a 117,000 refugees, while the Irish have accepted a measly couple of hundred and we're being made out to be the cunts?

If you were a German I might accept a lecture, but as it is you can shove your hypocrisy up your arse!


Peace, Des.


Grow up Des, it's not anti-British hate speech. I'm criticizing UK government policy.

Incidentally i'm half German. My mother is from the Rhineland.

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Postby smokedpeppers » Sun Feb 12, 2:14 am

here's a heart wrenching tale about the m&m kids in afghanistan
reads the International Security Assistance Force [ISAF], fucked up
http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/05/isaf- ... -kills-51/

and regarding those bastard saudi's and that plethora of new war toys, they've recently
procured . here's a more believable read on the situation with yemen children .
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/02/it ... dren-.html

what's the common dominator in this refugee migration?

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Postby boneymaroni » Sun Feb 12, 7:05 am

"anti-British spew"...you've lost your grip Desmond....

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Postby des » Sun Feb 12, 8:34 am

Generous_J wrote:Incidentally i'm half German. My mother is from the Rhineland.


That probably explains your superiority complex! LOL!

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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby des » Sun Feb 12, 8:54 am

smokedpeppers wrote:here's a heart wrenching tale about the m&m kids in afghanistan
reads the International Security Assistance Force [ISAF], fucked up
http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/05/isaf- ... -kills-51/

and regarding those bastard saudi's and that plethora of new war toys, they've recently
procured . here's a more believable read on the situation with yemen children .
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/02/it ... dren-.html

what's the common dominator in this refugee migration?


You do realise the M&M story is a spoof ... don't you?

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Postby smokedpeppers » Sun Feb 12, 3:24 pm

des wrote:
smokedpeppers wrote:here's a heart wrenching tale about the m&m kids in afghanistan
reads the International Security Assistance Force [ISAF], fucked up
http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/05/isaf- ... -kills-51/

and regarding those bastard saudi's and that plethora of new war toys, they've recently
procured . here's a more believable read on the situation with yemen children .
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/02/it ... dren-.html

what's the common dominator in this refugee migration?


You do realise the M&M story is a spoof ... don't you?

Peace, Des.

I did .

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Postby des » Mon Feb 13, 7:51 pm

Generous_J wrote:I would let this die but...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 76976.html


I'll ask you again then!

For every refugee that Ireland has taken in, we've welcomed in a thousand!

What gives you the right to get on your high horse when your own country's record of helping refugees is absolutely fuckin' abysmal?


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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby Rudy » Mon Feb 13, 8:09 pm

We are all shitting in the same pot here, Des, no one is above the stink.

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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby des » Mon Feb 13, 10:59 pm

Rudy wrote:We are all shitting in the same pot here, Des, no one is above the stink.


You're right, we should all be doing more!

It was his attempt to unfairly single out Britain as a nation of heartless cunts that got on my paps!


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Postby Generous_J » Tue Feb 14, 12:20 am

des wrote:
Rudy wrote:We are all shitting in the same pot here, Des, no one is above the stink.


You're right, we should all be doing more!

It was his attempt to unfairly single out Britain as a nation of heartless cunts that got on my paps!


Peace, Des.


I only ever criticised UK government policy.
I thought I could argue the point so you might agree.
Instead you keep screaming 'what about Ireland?'. Can it not be discussed in isolation? Or do I have to be English to have an opinion?

You can't seem to find it in you to criticise the Tory establishment. Why is that? 'We should all be doing more' - yes we should all be doing more - of course - but I am not talking about all of us but the UK in particular.

Why is UK policy of particular interest to me? Because you are Irelands nearest neighbour and we are very similar culturally and otherwise. I'm dissapointed in this carry on and I think you should be too.

I feel that these developments are a microcosm of the macro which seems to include the growth of nationalism, isolationism, and - frankly - right wing sentiment. Something that is sweeping the globe. It saddens me to see what is happening.

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Postby des » Tue Feb 14, 5:19 pm

Generous_J wrote:
des wrote:
Rudy wrote:We are all shitting in the same pot here, Des, no one is above the stink.


You're right, we should all be doing more!

It was his attempt to unfairly single out Britain as a nation of heartless cunts that got on my paps!


Peace, Des.


I only ever criticised UK government policy.
I thought I could argue the point so you might agree.
Instead you keep screaming 'what about Ireland?'. Can it not be discussed in isolation? Or do I have to be English to have an opinion?

You can't seem to find it in you to criticise the Tory establishment. Why is that? 'We should all be doing more' - yes we should all be doing more - of course - but I am not talking about all of us but the UK in particular.

Why is UK policy of particular interest to me? Because you are Irelands nearest neighbour and we are very similar culturally and otherwise. I'm dissapointed in this carry on and I think you should be too.

I feel that these developments are a microcosm of the macro which seems to include the growth of nationalism, isolationism, and - frankly - right wing sentiment. Something that is sweeping the globe. It saddens me to see what is happening.


As I've already said, you reap what you sow!

The left wing federalists insisted on plowing on with their plans for a Federal Europe despite knowing the majority of people were opposed to it!

There was a Labour mouthpiece on 'Question Time' the other night who admitted we'd never have got a referendum if they'd been in power because it was too 'complicated' for your average pleb to understand the implications!

When 'Dimbo' asked him if the wishes of 52% of the electorate should have been ignored, he agreed!

I'll never vote Labour again!

When the mainstream parties openly admit only the views of an elite minority count, it's time to take whatever steps are required to remove them from office!


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Postby Generous_J » Tue Feb 14, 9:06 pm

I give up. You reap what you sow alright. Enjoy it.

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Re: Unaccompanied Refugee Children not Welcome in Brexit Britain

Postby Old Fart » Tue Feb 14, 9:32 pm

Generous_J wrote:I give up.


Thank the Lord.


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