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George Orwell Back in London?

Postby NewYork, New York » Tue Aug 16, 6:35 pm

You Brits better stop worrying about US Politics if this is what is happening in the UK.

London Mayor To Set Up Police ‘Online Hate Crime Hub’ In ‘Partnership’ With Social Media Firms

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by LIAM DEACON16 Aug 2016


The office of London’s first Muslim mayor has secured millions of pounds to fund a police “online hate crime hub” to work in “partnership with social media providers” to criminalise “trolls” who “target… individuals and communities.”
The London mayor’s office for policing and crime (Mopac) will spend £1,730,726 of taxpayer’s money policing speech online after applying for a huge grant from the Home Office Police Innovation Fund (PIF), it was announced in a statement.

“The purpose of this programme is to strengthen the police and community response to this growing crime type” is was announced, and will “involv[e] a dedicated police team” backed by “volunteers”.

The measures will be “delivered in partnership with social media providers” who along with “specialist officers” will be “filtering and identification of online hate crimes” and “identifying the location of the crime and allocating to the appropriate force…”

In May this year, the EU announced that Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Microsoft had “committed” to working more closely with them and national governments and “their law enforcement agencies” to help “criminalise” perceived “illegal hate speech” online.

London’s Metropolitan police force said they welcomed the extra workload and wished to encourage offended people to report perceived hate crimes in ever increasing numbers.

“The Metropolitan police service is committed to working with our partners, including the mayor, to tackle all types of hate crime including offences committed online,” a spokesman for the Met said.

“By establishing this unit, we are sending a strong message to those who use online forums to spread hate that their actions will not be tolerated. The Metropolitan police service continues to have a zero-tolerance approach to all forms of hate crime.

“The Met encourages all victims of hate crime to report any incident to the police and will make every effort to hold offenders to account and bring them to justice.”

Convictions for crimes under Section 127 of the Communications Act of 2003, a law increasingly used to prosecute “internet trolls”, have increased ten-fold in a decade, official figures revealed in May last year. They showed 1,209 people were found guilty of offences under the law, compared with 143 in 2004, according to the Ministry of Justice.

The law criminalises “using [a] public electronic communications network in order to cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety,” and can result in a six-month prison term or fine of up to £5,000.

“Pure rants, very childish [people online] are increasingly criminalised, and as a result of that the police is becoming more and more involved in controlling our morality”, explained Frank Furedi, emeritus professor of sociology at the University of Kent, on BBC Radio 4 this morning.

“[The police are] almost playing the role of a moral police. And instead of dealing with real crime in the offline world, [the police] find its very convenient to ‘send the message’ in the online world because it’s a relatively easy thing to do”, he said.

Adding: “And what I’m really worried about, is that the whole freedom of speech becomes compromised whenever people have to think twice about what they say”.

Section 127 was the law used to prosecute James McConnell, the Northern Irish Pastor charged with making “grossly offensive” remarks about Islam during a sermon broadcast online in 2014.

He was subjected to an 18-month police investigation and criminal prosecution, eventually being found not guilty at the beginning of this year.

In 2011, a Scottish football fan was sentenced to eight months in prison for insulting Celtic fans, Catholics and the Pope on a Facebook page under section 127.

During sentencing, the sheriff told the defendant that “the right-thinking people of Glasgow and Scotland” would not tolerate his views being expressed online.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby Dazzler » Tue Aug 16, 6:47 pm

Yeah, this is a big problem but something tells me you wouldn't have given a fuck if it had been specifically targeted at Muslim communities.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby Rudy » Tue Aug 16, 7:11 pm

Police controlling online morality?
I would think that NYNY would happily vote for that.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby Dazzler » Tue Aug 16, 7:23 pm

Looks like this is a press release copied verbatim by several 'news' sources. Of course, we'll never know which one Norks got it from because he never attributes.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby Cali Guy » Tue Aug 16, 8:19 pm

Commendations to bas for creating an internet 'safe space'.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby NewYork, New York » Tue Aug 16, 10:00 pm

Rudy wrote:Police controlling online morality?
I would think that NYNY would happily vote for that.


Per usual you have no idea what I think or believe.

I am nowhere near the bogeyman you make me out to be.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby Rudy » Tue Aug 16, 10:06 pm

NewYork, New York wrote:
Rudy wrote:Police controlling online morality?
I would think that NYNY would happily vote for that.


you have no idea what I think or believe.




It's true.
It is someone elses views you copy and paste, then you wiggle and squirm when
someone asks you what you believe.
I don`t even think you know what you believe.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby Dazzler » Wed Aug 17, 9:14 am

NewYork, New York wrote:
Rudy wrote:Police controlling online morality?
I would think that NYNY would happily vote for that.


Per usual you have no idea what I think or believe.

I am nowhere near the bogeyman you make me out to be.


I don't think anyone thinks you're a 'bogeyman'. I think you're a bit of a tit but probably basically a decent bloke. But everyone's a bit of a tit now and again, right?

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby Lazy stones » Wed Aug 17, 10:53 am

The arrests at the Bigot Fest(Celtic/Rangers game) were due to anti sectarian policies in Scotland which fans are trying to overturn as they are a bit Draconian. Nothing to go with the Lungdung mayor.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby NewYork, New York » Wed Aug 17, 6:19 pm

Dazzler wrote:
NewYork, New York wrote:
Rudy wrote:Police controlling online morality?
I would think that NYNY would happily vote for that.


Per usual you have no idea what I think or believe.

I am nowhere near the bogeyman you make me out to be.


I don't think anyone thinks you're a 'bogeyman'. I think you're a bit of a tit but probably basically a decent bloke. But everyone's a bit of a tit now and again, right?


Every once in a blue moon, you seem to become a reasonable person and actually make a statement with which I can agree.

Rudy? Not so much, if at all.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby Rudy » Wed Aug 17, 7:35 pm

*sniff*

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby Generous_J » Fri Aug 19, 2:29 pm

BREAKING: NY,NY admits to being 'a bit of a tit'. Sources say fellow Channels posters pleased at the admission.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby NewYork, New York » Fri Aug 19, 7:46 pm

Generous_J wrote:BREAKING: NY,NY admits to being 'a bit of a tit'. Sources say fellow Channels posters pleased at the admission.


Don't worry J, you are as well.

Most posters here would be put in this category.

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby octafish » Thu Sep 08, 1:39 pm

I always try to use the "Am I being a tit" filter before pressing submit.


Don't post much, work it out...

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Re: George Orwell Back in London?

Postby Generous_J » Sat Sep 24, 12:13 am

lol. Fair play.


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