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Green New Deal

Postby modern roots » Fri Sep 06, 5:17 pm

The Democratic Presidential candidates are all pushing for the green new deal pledging trillions to fight climate change. How are they going to pay for it and get it done? Is it time for all renewable energy sources? Time to get away from coal? Time for all electric vehicles where oil and gas are a thing of the past? Time for us to all be vegan and stop eating meat?

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Re: Green New Deal

Postby Bohannon » Sat Sep 07, 2:03 pm

Simple...tax the fuck out of the rich!

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Re: Green New Deal

Postby modern roots » Tue Sep 10, 10:47 pm

I don't think the rich have that much money.
And the cost is in the trillions. No real way to pay for it.

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Re: Green New Deal

Postby Dazzler » Wed Sep 11, 10:38 am

How are they going to pay the costs of vast damage, death, injury and displacement caused by climate emergencies?

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Re: Green New Deal

Postby modern roots » Wed Sep 11, 8:26 pm

That's what FEMA is for.

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Re: Green New Deal

Postby Dazzler » Thu Sep 12, 8:01 am

You really are the thickest man alive.

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Re: Green New Deal

Postby slither » Fri Sep 13, 9:55 pm

modern roots wrote:The Democratic Presidential candidates are all pushing for the green new deal pledging trillions to fight climate change. How are they going to pay for it and get it done? Is it time for all renewable energy sources? Time to get away from coal? Time for all electric vehicles where oil and gas are a thing of the past? Time for us to all be vegan and stop eating meat?



You are lost in the weeds (no pun intended), which is precisely the purpose of all the sloganeering and the tribalism. You might consider it the sleight-of-hand through which the corporate elite the world over have endeavored to obfuscate, separate, isolate, and divide and conquer. It is not your fault you are susceptible to these forces. You do not know any better, and those who have so benevolently taken it upon themselves to aspire toward "leadership" on your behalf have made it difficult for you to raise your voice against them. 'Tis by design, amigo. The world as we know it has come far from the days of the Industrial Revolution, and existing in the fog of a nineteenth-century agrarian mindset has been detrimental to the further development of humanity. Globalism. Populism. Nationalism. Humanism. These are just "hard words" that are used to scare and juxtapose the common folk. There is more to life than legal weed, and to the extent that legalized cannabis - for medical or recreational use - is the movement of the moment, it will only serve to further this same end goal for the power elite.

In answer to your questions - yes. Quite likely.
It is called progress, and it has never been a question of money per se; rather, what we do with it.

Don't be fooled by politics, and don't get lost in the nomenclature. When the end comes, we are all vulnerable. Neither money, nor weed, nor class will save any of us. We are all in this together. As soon as the masses figure this out and internalize it, the hegemony is over, and everyone from Boris Johnson to Moscow Mitch to the stupid fuck with the ridiculous hair currently residing in the White House knows this. They feel it. They depend on it. Remember this every time you see Trump pull his messianic bullshit, and when you hear and observe Ivanka and Donnie, Jr. try their molting wings in the same arena.

We are all we have, mate. The sooner we realize this, the better.





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Re: Green New Deal

Postby worldcitizen1723 » Fri Sep 13, 10:40 pm

slither wrote:In answer to your questions - yes. Quite likely.
It is called progress, and it has never been a question of money per se; rather, what we do with it.

Don't be fooled by politics, and don't get lost in the nomenclature. When the end comes, we are all vulnerable. Neither money, nor weed, nor class will save any of us. We are all in this together. As soon as the masses figure this out and internalize it, the hegemony is over, and everyone from Boris Johnson to Moscow Mitch to the stupid fuck with the ridiculous hair currently residing in the White House knows this. They feel it. They depend on it. Remember this every time you see Trump pull his messianic bullshit, and when you hear and observe Ivanka and Donnie, Jr. try their molting wings in the same arena.

We are all we have, mate. The sooner we realize this, the better.





Cheers,
Slith



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Re: Green New Deal

Postby Banks » Sat Sep 14, 1:33 am

Dazzler wrote:You really are the thickest man alive.

One word... Norks

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Re: Green New Deal

Postby modern roots » Thu Sep 19, 1:20 am

slither wrote:
modern roots wrote:The Democratic Presidential candidates are all pushing for the green new deal pledging trillions to fight climate change. How are they going to pay for it and get it done? Is it time for all renewable energy sources? Time to get away from coal? Time for all electric vehicles where oil and gas are a thing of the past? Time for us to all be vegan and stop eating meat?



You are lost in the weeds (no pun intended), which is precisely the purpose of all the sloganeering and the tribalism. You might consider it the sleight-of-hand through which the corporate elite the world over have endeavored to obfuscate, separate, isolate, and divide and conquer. It is not your fault you are susceptible to these forces. You do not know any better, and those who have so benevolently taken it upon themselves to aspire toward "leadership" on your behalf have made it difficult for you to raise your voice against them. 'Tis by design, amigo. The world as we know it has come far from the days of the Industrial Revolution, and existing in the fog of a nineteenth-century agrarian mindset has been detrimental to the further development of humanity. Globalism. Populism. Nationalism. Humanism. These are just "hard words" that are used to scare and juxtapose the common folk. There is more to life than legal weed, and to the extent that legalized cannabis - for medical or recreational use - is the movement of the moment, it will only serve to further this same end goal for the power elite.

In answer to your questions - yes. Quite likely.
It is called progress, and it has never been a question of money per se; rather, what we do with it.

Don't be fooled by politics, and don't get lost in the nomenclature. When the end comes, we are all vulnerable. Neither money, nor weed, nor class will save any of us. We are all in this together. As soon as the masses figure this out and internalize it, the hegemony is over, and everyone from Boris Johnson to Moscow Mitch to the stupid fuck with the ridiculous hair currently residing in the White House knows this. They feel it. They depend on it. Remember this every time you see Trump pull his messianic bullshit, and when you hear and observe Ivanka and Donnie, Jr. try their molting wings in the same arena.

We are all we have, mate. The sooner we realize this, the better.





Cheers,
Slith



I think you carried your response a bit too far.

Exactly where am I lost in the weeds?

These climate change activists are too apocalyptic with their message. It's not the end of the world.
We'll need oil and gas for years to come. The transition to electric cars will be painfully slow.

Let me be clear. I'm for zero carbon emissions but I'm also a realist.


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