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Postby Hobie » Wed Mar 18, 6:37 pm

Bohannon wrote:Where I live the town reeks of grapes and weed from late August until November.



So its all about , decisions . decisions. decisions and how has the wine been during the recent drought years ?

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Postby nemesystem » Wed Mar 18, 6:41 pm

Generous_J wrote:I'd love to go to a medical marijuana place with a card holder.


You can visit the rec shops in colorado or washington they are the same thing the only difference is price....

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Postby Bohannon » Wed Mar 18, 8:17 pm

Hobie wrote:
Bohannon wrote:Where I live the town reeks of grapes and weed from late August until November.



So its all about , decisions . decisions. decisions and how has the wine been during the recent drought years ?



The last two years were a couple of the best. Grapes have deep tap roots.

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Postby Generous_J » Wed Mar 18, 8:51 pm

nemesystem wrote:
Generous_J wrote:I'd love to go to a medical marijuana place with a card holder.


You can visit the rec shops in colorado or washington they are the same thing the only difference is price....


Really? You dont need 'credentials' to buy? Oh boy!

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Postby Old Fart » Wed Mar 18, 11:44 pm

Generous_J wrote:
nemesystem wrote:
Generous_J wrote:I'd love to go to a medical marijuana place with a card holder.


You can visit the rec shops in colorado or washington they are the same thing the only difference is price....


Really? You dont need 'credentials' to buy? Oh boy!


Just your ID. If you come to Colorado you won't need to pay retail but I can't promise $50 ounces.

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Postby Dogbreath » Fri Mar 27, 1:34 pm

modern roots wrote: A grower can produce pounds, even tons of dope and have no more than $25 in each pound."


Personally, I would jump on the chance to buy a Z of top shelf weed for $250. All day long!

Here in Vermont, where the prohibition still remains in this once liberal state, street prices run US $300. to $400. an ounce. In one of the four licensed medical dispensaries in the state, a Z costs $400., and the quality of that product is not at all top shelf.

Here are real world production costs, which includes nutrients, electrical costs. Not included are indirect costs such as rent, water, carbon dioxide, pest management, waste disposal, equipment amortization/depreciation, cost of genetics and most importantly, labor.

Cost per gram: $1.16
Cost per ounce: $132.76
Cost per Pound: $524.09

It takes 1.94 kWh to produce one gram of bud. Which is an astounding and unsustainable amount of energy. A typical grow room has a lighting power density exceeding 50 watts per square foot..... MUCH higher then these power hungry large server farms.

Of the costs noted, 66% is for nutes and grow media, 22% is electricity (at state commercial average of $0.131 per kWh) and 12% for lamp replacement.

The electrical costs are based on a production metric of about .75 grams per watt. Some growers will do a little better, other worse. With the new high performance LED fixtures now starting to come online with test results just staring to come in, efficiency can be increased to 1.7 grams per watt and easily higher.

The above figures are based on retail grow shop nute costs; larger operations can cut costs by volume purchases. But the electrical costs would not "scale up" much with a large commercial operation.

The Vermont progressive party introduced a bill to legalize/ regulate cannabis a few weeks ago, which is going nowhere due to old school Democratic party blockage and a "no-way Jose" Republican party attitude. (How I envy western states voter initiatives!!!) The bill would prohibit any outdoor growing, a bad policy, IMHO, and would exacerbate current electric grid distribution problems by increasing annual state electrical consumption by at least 40,000 mWh per year.... likely much more if one factors in tourist purchases.

Nationally, cannabis production consumes 1% of all the electricity generated. In states like California (and now Colorado), it can be up to 7%.

Why work up these numbers? Two reasons:

1. It's what I do for a living (energy efficiency in buildings)

2. Part of a business plan I'm working looking into being a producer here in Vermont, following the very successful craft brewery model and cashing in on the Vermont "branding" (aka small scale, high quality, clean).

You can't manage what you can't measure.....

Now, where can I score some of that top shelf $250. a Z bud here in New England (all day long).

Life is goeden...

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Postby Mokum Dream » Fri Mar 27, 1:36 pm

Dogbreath wrote:
Life is goeden...



Bloody hell, can't you even get that right?

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Postby Mokum Dream » Fri Mar 27, 1:40 pm

Het leven is mooi, het is weer vrijdag, als we fiets het weekend in!

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Postby Dogbreath » Fri Mar 27, 6:59 pm

Mokum Dream wrote:
Dogbreath wrote:
Life is goeden...



Bloody hell, can't you even get that right?


For me, Dutch as a second language.... can barely speak/understand it, let alone get the spelling or grammer correct. Some would make the same comment about my english....

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Postby Mokum Dream » Fri Mar 27, 7:09 pm

Ok mate, it would be better if you said "life is goed"...

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Postby modern roots » Sat Mar 28, 5:05 am

Dogbreath,
Vermont single handedly bankrupted Social Security almost 75 years ago but that is another story altogether.

You see and I don't like that indoor weed. I refuse to smoke that indoor grown shit under those artificial lights anymore.
I dispute some of your math though. The gram to ounce price doesn't add up. But anyway.

I got good outdoor dope by meeting, unexpectedly, a group of individuals behind the Shaw's in Montpelier. Just walk along the side of Shaw's and cross the water on the bridge with the railroad tracks. Met them there on the side of that huge lot near the river. Total strangers at the time. Started talking. One thing led to another and the rest is history. All of us got stoned.
Didn't buy any at the moment and it was a good thing. Got thrown in jail later on that night. Cop drove me all the way to St. Johnsbury from Montpelier. I got out 4 days later and the fucking cops shorted me $50 and said they lost my jacket I had just purchased a few weeks earlier for $75. Fucking thiefs. And the fucking cops in Bennington are cocksuckers too.
South Burlington cops have shaken me down too.
Great little ride on the boat across Lake Champlain from Burlington to New York, isn't it?

But so far as indoor dope is concerned, I don't like the shit. I like outdoor weed and I love finding the occasional seed.

Been shopping on Church St. lately in Burlington?
A little rich for my blood but I love the Ben and Jerry's there.

You know, and keep the legal secretaries working as long as you can.
Maybe I can make it to Ludlow one day.

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Postby NewYork, New York » Thu Apr 16, 8:25 pm

Old Fart wrote:
Generous_J wrote:
nemesystem wrote:
Generous_J wrote:I'd love to go to a medical marijuana place with a card holder.


You can visit the rec shops in colorado or washington they are the same thing the only difference is price....


Really? You dont need 'credentials' to buy? Oh boy!


Just your ID. If you come to Colorado you won't need to pay retail but I can't promise $50 ounces.


J, I was in Colorado back in March 2013. Went to a shop called 3D Cannabis Club (recommended by MHD) near the airport.
Bought 4 grams of weed, two strains. The better of the two by far was called "Deathstar". (Great name. Knocked the stuffing out of me)

Price was $16 per gram. Pricey but LEGAL.

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Postby Generous_J » Thu Apr 16, 11:25 pm

Thats incredible alright, shame its so far away!

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Postby alpha » Fri Apr 17, 1:37 am

Generous_J wrote:Thats incredible alright, shame its so far away!


Nothin' like some fine Irish whine! Go west young man!

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Postby NewYork, New York » Fri Apr 17, 3:15 pm

Generous_J wrote:Thats incredible alright, shame its so far away!


Fly into JFK or Logan in Boston.

I could pick you up and we can take a road trip out to Colorado and visit some
folks and some cannabis clubs.

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Fri Apr 17, 3:57 pm

NewYork, New York wrote:
Generous_J wrote:Thats incredible alright, shame its so far away!


Fly into JFK or Logan in Boston.

I could pick you up and we can take a road trip out to Colorado and visit some
folks and some cannabis clubs.


that's a good deal of driving 26 hours (if traffic and weather do not get in the way) hope you 2 like each other! : > lol that trip would take me three days!

spend the extra bucks and just fly to Denver.

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Postby chichi123 » Fri Apr 17, 4:17 pm

I just got a ticket from Chicago to Denver for $118 round trip.

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Postby Bohannon » Fri Apr 17, 5:05 pm

worldcitizen1723 wrote:
NewYork, New York wrote:
Generous_J wrote:Thats incredible alright, shame its so far away!


Fly into JFK or Logan in Boston.

I could pick you up and we can take a road trip out to Colorado and visit some
folks and some cannabis clubs.


that's a good deal of driving 26 hours (if traffic and weather do not get in the way) hope you 2 like each other! : > lol that trip would take me three days!

spend the extra bucks and just fly to Denver.


I once made it from Buffalo, NY to Napa in just under 48 hours , including an hour or so off the freeway in a snow bank in Nebraska.
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Postby moe. » Fri Apr 17, 5:53 pm

I've driven from Elmira, NY to L.A. in 74 hours.

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Postby Rudy » Fri Apr 17, 5:57 pm

My butt hurts just thinking about it.

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Fri Apr 17, 6:38 pm

i get cranky after 8 hours in a car...

would need a lot of drugs to do it straight thru.

drove back and forth to FL from NYC a handful of times in 20 hours....
but i would NOT think of doing it now. I enjoy and appreciate comfort
these days.

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Postby moe. » Fri Apr 17, 6:56 pm

worldcitizen1723 wrote:i get cranky after 8 hours in a car...

would need a lot of drugs to do it straight thru.

drove back and forth to FL from NYC a handful of times in 20 hours....
but i would NOT think of doing it now. I enjoy and appreciate comfort
these days.


I smoked hash at a rest stop in every state.

I was 21 at the time and was driving a '71 Olds Toronado so I was cruising in comfort. Each night I stopped at a rest stop, climbed in the back, locked the doors and slept as best as i could. I was on a very low budget.
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Postby des » Fri Apr 17, 7:00 pm

moe. wrote:I've driven from Elmira, NY to L.A. in 74 hours.


I've driven from one side of England to the other loads of times!

It takes about two and a half hours!


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Postby moe. » Fri Apr 17, 7:03 pm

des wrote:
moe. wrote:I've driven from Elmira, NY to L.A. in 74 hours.


I've driven from one side of England to the other loads of times!

It takes about two and a half hours!


Peace, Des.


I would love to drive the back roads of Blighty some day.

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Postby des » Fri Apr 17, 7:10 pm

moe. wrote:
des wrote:
moe. wrote:I've driven from Elmira, NY to L.A. in 74 hours.


I've driven from one side of England to the other loads of times!

It takes about two and a half hours!


Peace, Des.


I would love to drive the back roads of Blighty some day.


The back roads from Bridlington to Whitby are an absolute joy!

It's like a 1 hour rollercoaster ride!


Peace, Des.

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Postby Bohannon » Fri Apr 17, 7:22 pm

des wrote:
moe. wrote:
des wrote:
moe. wrote:I've driven from Elmira, NY to L.A. in 74 hours.


I've driven from one side of England to the other loads of times!

It takes about two and a half hours!


Peace, Des.


I would love to drive the back roads of Blighty some day.


The back roads from Bridlington to Whitby are an absolute joy!

It's like a 1 hour rollercoaster ride!


Peace, Des.


Could I rent a motorcycle there reasonably?

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Postby des » Sat Apr 18, 8:11 am

Bohannon wrote:
des wrote:
moe. wrote:
des wrote:
moe. wrote:I've driven from Elmira, NY to L.A. in 74 hours.


I've driven from one side of England to the other loads of times!

It takes about two and a half hours!


Peace, Des.


I would love to drive the back roads of Blighty some day.


The back roads from Bridlington to Whitby are an absolute joy!

It's like a 1 hour rollercoaster ride!


Peace, Des.


Could I rent a motorcycle there reasonably?


I dunno? ... it's a pretty backward part of the country round there! The locals still point up at the sky when a plane flies over!

You'd probably have to travel into York to hire a bike, or arrange to pick one up at the airport when you arrive!


Peace, Des.

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Postby NewYork, New York » Sat Jun 20, 10:00 pm

Old Fart wrote:So after paying licencing fees, insurance, staff, utilities, implementation of mandatory regulations, a storefront, equipment, supplies, marketing, etc. etc. etc. you think an oz. of top shelf weed should be $50.

Name one place besides Bizzaro World you can score an oz. of high quility weed for $50.

How many people have the room or desire to grow their own weed? Shezz could make bathtub gin and get just as drunk but he doesn't , Chig could grow his own tobacco but he doesn't, I could grow my own weed but I don't.


I believe everyone should be paid for their labors. Brokers, salespeople, bus drivers, hamburger flippers and yes, weed growers too.

For the good weed, a fair price in the USA is $200 - 250 per ounce.
In Colorado, due to the Gov't regulations and taxes, this translates to $400 - 500 an ounce.

Like OF said, if you think these prices are high (and they ain't cheap ) grow your own. However as MHD stated, growing quality weed takes effort.

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Postby Old Fart » Sat Jun 20, 11:09 pm

Weed prices vary depending where you live. You couldn't find an ounce of good weed in Charlottesville Virginia for example for less than $300-400 if you were lucky enough to find it at all. WC said in NYC it can be as high as $600. Nobody that lives in Colorado is paying more than $200 an ounce at the moment. Keep in mind it's the best pot grown on the planet and there are a dizzying amount of strains available everywhere.


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