12 sweet days in Amsterdam

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Fri Sep 03, 9:43 pm

well, it was a quiet evening
asleep by 9:30 and did not awaken for another 12 hours
the headache is gone, i am dizzy, a little woozy. but much better than i was. dizzy i can deal with!

the mate went out, while i slept. took a try at the casino. it's loosened up, since the last time he visited it. Jackets are no longer required. He said it had lost a sense of decorum and reminded him of being in Atlantic City. he liked the restrained proper environment that it used to have - even though he balked when made to wear a jacket! : >

Anyway, the casino was not positive for his pocket, he left with 5 euro and a joint in his pocket So, having enough cash for a drink at the Rookery, he decided to spend the last of his money and smoke his joint. Soon after he sat down, he was joined by a well dressed 30 something couple. They were excited to be here, she from South Africa, he from Australia both living in Oxford. They couldn't roll joints, so the mate lent a helping hand they shared animated conversation. The gentleman left to go to the bathroom and the woman explained that they were both married to others and were here in Amsterdam having an affair - she loved the excitement of it all, but was confused about her life - she wanted help to figure it out! The mate told her to follow her heart and not to hurt anyone. Of course the gentleman returned and the mate got up to bid adieu, the gentleman placed a gram of hash in his hand, the mate tried to refuse, but the gentleman insisted due to the help of rolling joints and explaining the finer points of choosing what to smoke and when.

it's a new day

it is a beautiful day FINALLY. we were spoiled by last year. two weeks of absolute sun (I know, unheard of) with temperatures hitting 80 degrees. The kind of weather that forces you to be outside and be active.

today has been the dogs day to connect with Amsterdam. first two little dutch girls in their sequenced, tulle skirts, stripped socks, flowered boots and denim jackets came over and started speaking Dutch to me (That happens a lot, kids and adults speaking to me in Dutch. I admit that NO ONE ever thinks we are from America upon meeting us) I shrug and say english - they looked so unhappy. so i bent down and said: pet? Oh that made them so happy! giggling they bent down the girls and the dog had a great time together, as their mom beamed from the doorway of a nearby store.

As we walked past the Dutch Tulip an 80 something woman sees the dog and just starts talking to him. No matter that she can only speak French, the dog and she seem to be communicating just fine. Her son comes over and explains that she is visiting him, and that he has lived here for 30 years. she decides she wants pictures of us - it turns into this dance of taking pictures of each other with our own cameras with each others cameras - i think we took every combination possible. After we finished there were all of these hugs and we went on our way. I'm sorry to say - THAT NEVER happens in NYC!!

We continued on to Rembrandt Square after stopping at Stix to try their bubblegum ( a flavorful smoke. great morning sativa)
the Square's renovation is complete, the life size Night Watch replication is gone). I liked it better the way it was. now more cement. But there is this water element opposite the statue. A rock with water rolling over it and squirting up on the sides. As I looked at it, a flock of pigeon flew in. three at time they got onto the rock and washed themselves getting all wet, spiky and funky looking. It was an actual bathing procession for the flock. Once the birds were finished with their baths they moved to sit on some nice sun warmed slabs of cement to dry up. I have never been quite so fascinated by pigeons before. Guess that is what slowing down in Amsterdam does for you! : >

As we walked around the Square (I had to carry the dog - he was exhausted) One of those guys that drives the bike rickshaws (sure they are called something else, but you know what i mean) started yelling: hey , hey, hey -- i thought he was trying to drum up business, but no. He was trying to get the dog's attention! So went over to him with the dog and the guy just lit up as he played with the dog. It was a great scene, because it did something to the guy - took his psyche somewhere else. strangely, it seemed a deeply profound meeting. Okay, that's probably an overstatement. but there was some clear connection between them.

As a note- i carried a little water dish with me, whenever we stopped at a coffeeshop and i pulled it out, without asking someone would grab it and fill it with water for him)

came back to the apartment, ate some lunch (a pesto sandwich picked up on the walk back) and took a nap (my mind want to ride to vondel park or go to the botanical gardens. but my body seems to be holding all the cards and it wants a nap!)

30 minutes later - we are ready to hit the street, went to FLower Power to play some pinball before dinner, The right flipper was funky a couple of days ago and we told them about it - today we walked in and they told us it was fixed - and it was! Dinner one more time at Toscannini. A place we know well. LOL, we got twisted around with our NYC thinking that blocks are blocks and that everything is parallel. If we had been on out bikes, no problem - we would have found our way around - but on foot - anyway we finally found the restaurant just before we fell into frustration AND lost our reservation. another great Italian meal. back to the apartment to smoke left overs --

gawd can't believe our vacation is almost over - we both agreed, we could use at least another week or two. Trekkinhill you got it right! 3 weeks minimum. Last year we were ready to leave and get back to our other lives - this year we ARE NOT READY. tomorrow is the last full day as we leave on Sunday..

BTW
have i mentioned the swans? There are more swans in the canals than I have ever seen before -- gangs of swans puffed up and showing off.

Also what's up with the posters that are all over: the picture will be of an angry pouting kid (always a different kid) on top will be the kid's name and on the bottom it will say BE POSITIVE! I have been wondering does this mean there are a lot of young angry pouting Dutch children? Or maybe this is some type of weird punishment for petulant children?! Or maybe an add for Prozac. Hard to say, as there is nothing else on the poster

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Postby sidhe333 » Fri Sep 03, 10:24 pm

lovin' these posts

but i want pics of buddha the wonderdog
spreading joy and harmony wherever he goes

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Postby 27guldens » Fri Sep 03, 10:32 pm

I'm enjoying reading the report, thanks for taking the time,

- They had an insanely crazy martians pinball machine at Cafe The Minds (Spuistraat 245), maybe you'd like to see if they still have it. I'm sure your dog would be welcomed there -

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Postby moe. » Sun Sep 05, 4:13 pm

worldcitizen1723 wrote:hey, moe it's a really small world!!

i grew up in that section of NY too....


now you gotta share YOUR report too!
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I grew up in the Elmira/Corning area.

I'll do the best I can with a trip report, but I'm not taking a laptop so I might only check in every couple of days. I'll be waving at the Koningsplein and Donnie webcams pretty much daily too, but no times have been determined yet.

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Mon Sep 06, 7:45 pm

si - hate to admit it - not actually sure how to post a picture.

27- thanks - i"ll let ya know how that went : > in the next post

Moe - i did the early years in Binghamton. the laptop makes it easier to report - but without it, take notes daily. Really so much can get lost and blurred. it's actually a really fun exercise (from someone who has never kept a log or journal either privately or publicly)

Oh glorious saturday

our last full day

gorgeous beautiful amsterdam day!
the perfect blue sky day!!

morning paradox ritual. the dog actually was dragging us to it, he now knows his way to Paradox from the apartment!
had an interesting conversation with an israeli lady who was visiting Amsterdam
began with the usual personal info exchange
and then on into the next usual subject: legalization
how WE ARE ALL PERSECUTED, all over the world treated like children and controlled by a ruling class that is afraid of us.

one of my friends observed a couple of decades ago: that legalization will be difficult, due to the fact
that smoking for most people, quiets the mind and allows for deep reflection which ultimately leads people to realize that
WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER
violence gets you nowhere
Hawks realize this fact and do not want folks who are unwilling to fight their for profit wars, so keep the pot away.

we talked about how both of our societies have been manipulated by fear
and how fear, especially in the USA, has been used as the great manipulator to control the masses
then we started listing all of the reasons we love Amsterdam and what it offers. Number one being the sense of mutual respect -
the morning local crowd had been listening (we were at two different tables so the conversation was a bit public) and nodded in appreciation, I think sometimes they think we only see the available drugs and do not realize the consciousness underneath or realize what the Dutch have accomplished. I think the scene that best depicts it for me: one evening at Paradox -
one large table filled with men: two very well dressed men in suits, then a couple of casually dressed gentlemen, a super casual hippie type, and then a couple of laborers still in work clothes all sitting together and sharing laughs. On the other side of the room at another large table a group of women with a wide variety of styles and ages smoking, laughing and knitting.

To me that does it: People with varied interests and backgrounds enjoying each other's company. What I observe in other cultures (including my own) is just the opposite, everyone sticks to their "own group" , be it political, religious or economic - most likely a combination of all three. In Amsterdam there is a freedom, where it is okay to be exactly who you are - and you DO NOT have to think like the person next to you, to be accepted.

By the time we left we even had all the locals getting up, shaking hands and wishing us a perfect last day in Amsterdam and a quick return. : >

we walked out of there with this tremendous sense of human solidarity, and love in our hearts.


took the dog back for his downtime and did the final puccinni bonboni run for gifts (lets see how many are actually sent to the intended recipients!!)
biked around and just enjoyed the awesomely perfect saturday.

There is food street fair on Saturdays on Haarlemstraat (the street Barney's three shops are on) The restaurants put out long tables to actually sit down and eat. They serve a couple of specialties along with wine or other drinks. It is not like the street fairs in NYC that offer up fried, greasy fast food. This was real restaurant quality eats.

Also as an aside: Barney's Uptown food has greatly improved. You will not go wrong eating here. even vegetarians.

rode thru vondel park - how could we not on a day like this??

LOL Saturdays in Amsterdam: Bachelor and Bachelor-ette parties along with birthdays
if you have never paid attention they are a riot!
they are into mild humiliation (have you ever seen the guys or girls running around in outlandish costumes?
If not pay attention - especially in the warm months

In the park we came across a bachelor party
they are all in shorts and old fashion tee shirts and fake mustaches
the bachelor was entirely painted in orange
they first put a can of beer on his head and threw little balls to knock it off his head. when it would get knocked off it would spray him with beer. this continued with bigger and harder balls. the guy was getting beat up - and wet!
then they beat each other with a large inflatable hammer
then they took toilet paper tucked it into his underwear and lit it on fire. He had to run to put it out. this was repeated a couple of times.
finally they picked him up and threw the orange guy into the lake.
what perfect entertainment for a smoke break in the park!

saw another bachelor on the canal in one of those paddle boats decorated with balloons. He was wearing a full body (face included) orange body suit. He seemed to be most concerned with somehow making his 'equipment' look less obvious.

another group of guys dressed as sheiks with black wigs riding their bikes enmasse

girls in dayglo green wigs.

love those dutch!

came back to walk the dog and clean up for the supper club

and i pulled off the unthinkable on the walk
I carried on a complete conversation in Dutch -
(okay so maybe i just nodded and smiled at the appropriate times...)
so I was walking on a little street in the Jordaan, a rough hewn dutch mid-aged gentlemen rides a bike by and gives me a bit of a growlish glance) He then jumps off the bike to lock up and the dog goes towards some flowers near a building to piss. I give him my best Dutch 'Nay' and pull him away (our dutch rules same as NYC, no piss on buildings, bikes, flower pots or the flowers and bushes in front of a house - and always pick up poop) the gentleman's eyes softened towards me and he came out into the street speaking Dutch and looking at the dog. the dog met the man who put out his hand. dog started to wag his tail and sniff up the mans arm. all of a sudden, his tail goes between his legs and he runs and hides behind me. The man looks me in the eye laughing and says dutch blah, blah, blah, labrador - and points up stairs. aha, i laugh and say natuurlijk. (naturally). He goes on to speak more and is laughing so i laugh with him, turn and wish him a good afternoon (goede middag), he did the same and left. Not sure why that is so pleasing to me - but probably just relates too how much i would just love to live here!

It's the supper club tonite

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Mon Sep 06, 10:01 pm

The supper club

okay
first let me start by saying that we have been visiting the supper club since back in the mid 90"s when it first appeared on the scene. It was a TRIP back in those days. Everyone wore black (on our second visit we took a friend- who took off his shoes to show white socks --- people stared!) Men in black turtlenecks. Maybe one couple dressed totally in white. it was the dutch and european artsy set. there was sex and drugs. it was outrageous, edgy, dangerous and VERY smokey. it was an atmosphere of anything can happen. geez, unisex bathrooms - 15 years ago that was pushing the envelope

obviously over the years it has changed. It is now popular, more tourists than locals, it is a chain, it is safe. : > and of course it is no longer smokey!

Howie is back. he was once an outrageous queen, now, like many of us, he is a bit mellowed and matured.

so first off - he informs us, smoking of pot or tobacco is only done in one of the bathrooms (this has been this way since the smoking ban- but thankfully the bathroom now has ventilation, which in did not have last year-ugh). What i do not understand is that there are TWO unisex bathrooms - one a smoking room - why not just use the other bathroom to piss in? it is amusing - perhaps another only in Amsterdam experience. So we are hanging out out puffing away, a guy is pissing behind me in the urinal. in walks a guy with a cowboy hat and three opened beers in his hands. he walks into the only working toilet with a door. I whisper to my mate, i hope he is not filling the bottles for friends! : > He comes out and the mate remarks about the three beers, he said he thought his friends were in here, so he wanted to surprise them. then he says, i gotta show you something and he comes close and pulls out this big glitzy 'diamond' studded marijuana leaf, turns around and picks up the beers and leaves. Next yet another bachelor party, 15 guys from Denmark. But they explain that, they do not do the humiliation thing. they just come to party and have a good weekend.
The groom obviously quite drunk already, starts to explain to me, that we are lucky, very lucky because New Yorkers are the most driven people on the planet, it's in our genes. We tried to explain how that the drive can become just too much and people need to learn to relax and breath and forget about their appointment schedules. He just thought we were lucky. i guess we all on some level share the grass is greener syndrome.

i told him, you can see it in the bike riding styles. In NYC, if you ride a bike, you have one goal - to get where you want to get and no one better get in your way (we walk the street in the same manner) In Amsterdam, there is a flow a dance where there is room for everyone, even the tourist who does not quite understand the rules of the road.

the crowd was a diverse group of tourists with 2 bachelor parties and one bachelor-ette party. tame well behaved people. the show was also tame and well behaved.
ironically a duo from NYC a classical electric guitarist and a beat-box singer. the SC added a belly dancer. they were good, but nothing that challenged your senses on any level

took a smoke break and this Jersey wife type lady comes into my face and begins to brag that she lives 45 minutes from NYC, I said, yeah, I live there. All of a sudden her demeanor changed. She then told me her husband sells medical supplies and that they have lived in Amsterdam for two years! (so now who's envious?! : >) He just signed on for another two years. She could not believe what a wonderful culture it was. She loved it! fabulous life style, loved that her young daughters were getting to grow up there. She went back to the states during june and was packing a picnic basket to go to the beach like she would do in Amsterdam - cheese, fruit, bread and wine. then she realized- you can not drink wine on the beach. you can not drink wine in the park......
too many rules, too much control.

back in the bed, more food. Meal was interesting enough (5 courses - again a vegetarian choice)

jersey lady is getting plenty drunk, dancing and shaking her stuff all around. she pops up at the foot of our bed and confesses that she is drunk and that when she is drunk she gets into trouble. I told her, I remember that place and warned her it's better to think twice and use restraint when in this state- : > sometime the mess you make is just not worth it!

It was a good evening, not like what the SC used to be, but - everything changes and evolves- it is now comfortable for people who may have once went running scared from the place.

had a nice long talk with Howie after the show.

On 27's recommendation went to Cafe the minds after the SC to check out the pinball machine, since it was our last chance this trip.
LOL

it's a beer club: BEER DRINKING AGE IS 16!!!!
the place was packed with these little young things. : >
with a smoking ban and CHILDREN all around us we could not light a joint and play. (which is the whole point for us!) BUT since we were there, sampled the machine. Only machine we have seen that gives 5 balls. Good play, but not quite our scene for a saturday night. It was really really packed with very young thangs.

and really - we just wanted to be outside, walking the canals and breathing it in. did not even stop for a round on kadinsky's machine.

one more half day - our plane leaves at 5:30 pm on sunday so there's still a little more amsterdam in our future.....

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Tue Sep 07, 2:35 am

holy cow

talk about BEAUTIFUL days

this is the most gorgeous day we have seen since we landed!
so glad we decided to leave as late as possible today. car pick up at 3 (15:00)

gotta pack.

it's always amazing how the stuff seems to multiply and grow heavier

we had plans of riding around on the bikes to do a final pass thru of the city, but since the dog was not keen on the bikes, we decided he should be included in activities, after all, he had a long flight ahead of him too. Once packed, we hit the street and headed to paradox for one last time. it was quiet except for one young couple from seattle, they were in amsterdam for 24 hours, we gave them our best tips in terms of their interests- the only ironic piece about them were their names: Stephanie and Morgan (it will mean nothing to anyone else, but these two names linked together are highly significant to my mate and myself) after almost 90 minutes of conversation - we pushed them out and forced them to go out and enjoy the city. Took the dog back to the apartment, grabbed the bikes did a bit of a canal ring tour and then sadly returned them. we like bike city on bloemengraacht. they were well worth it, i really can not imagine being in Amsterdam and not having a bike, they make everything so simple! (and yes it probably was not until my 4th or 5th visit that i even thought riding a bike might be a possibility)

walked back to the apartment - got the dog and slowly strolled over to Amnesia - such a beautiful day, we wanted to sit outside and La Tertulia is closed on sundays so Amnesia was the only other choice in the neighborhood. there was an outside table empty and waiting for us. smoked, bought space cakes for the ride back, ate apple pie and drank hot chocolate and stared at the canal.

then it was time to drag ourselves away - there is one j left for the airport and we have finished everything we bought

(short diversion: first time in amsterdam, we over bought, we were going on to Italy, for me to work. staying at the Tulip on Stadhouderskade. so my mate decided to put the excess pot in an envelope addressed to himself and requested the hotel to hold it for him. we did not even have a layover in amsterdam on our return, i told him he was crazy. while i worked, he went about changing the tickets and our timing so that we would have an additional three days in Amsterdam : > when we arrived back to the hotel, they immediately pulled out the envelope and handed it to him. i couldn't believe it! the hotel held the stash!)

back to Amnesia- went inside to say good bye to the bud tender ( have avoided name dropping in this report). he had a line of people waiting to be served and just said, 'excuse me', stepped out from behind the counter, came outside to give us , as he called it a 'proper good bye'.

It was the final heart felt moment in Amsterdam, well no not quite, once back at the apartment to pick up our stuff and leave, the apartment owner amazingly gave us a gift of a rare limited edition cheese. which i packed into the carry on luggage (another amazing thing about luggage - there is always more room)

and off we went to the plane and an easy flight back to the states......

so ends my amsterdam trip report (until next time) : >

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Postby Bohannon » Tue Sep 07, 2:51 am

Wonderful reportage. I hereby nominate you for the "Last Hamlet Memorial Trip Report Award" (details to be ironed out later, lol).

Thanks very much, err...bedankt!

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Postby boneymaroni » Tue Sep 07, 2:53 am

Fabulous trip report...great writing...enjoyed it very much.

Thank you!

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Postby 27guldens » Tue Sep 07, 8:36 am

worldcitizen1723 wrote:On 27's recommendation went to Cafe the minds after the SC to check out the pinball machine, since it was our last chance this trip.
LOL

it's a beer club: BEER DRINKING AGE IS 16!!!!
the place was packed with these little young things. : >
with a smoking ban and CHILDREN all around us we could not light a joint and play. (which is the whole point for us!) BUT since we were there, sampled the machine. Only machine we have seen that gives 5 balls. Good play, but not quite our scene for a saturday night. It was really really packed with very young thangs.

.....


LOL

I found that place on my first visit fourteen years ago, and kept going back from time to time due to sentimental reasons and its cheap beer.
It was still a weed smoker friendly bar last time i went.

I knew there were going to be young punks there, but not SO young. I'm sorry for not have warned you about it.
At least, be thankful i didn't send you to the squat cafe just across the street ;-)


Great trip report, thanks again!

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Tue Sep 07, 2:34 pm

thanks!! - glad you have enjoyed the report - feeling like i am earning my Channels wings. : >

oh AND there was one more amazing thing: THE AIRLINE DID NOT CHARGE FOR THE DOG'S RETURN TRIP!! I kept waiting for the extra charge (you can not pre pay the dog) and she just tagged his bag and sent us on our way.

how fine is that?!

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Postby des » Tue Sep 07, 3:14 pm

Best trip report in fuckin' ages ... thanks for sharing!

Peace, Des.

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Postby sidhe333 » Tue Sep 07, 3:42 pm

to buddha dog
money is illusory
naturally he should fly free

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Postby HighCountry » Tue Sep 07, 5:26 pm

Thanks for your time and effort to post the events of the trip. It was an enjoyable read.

Happy Trails...

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Postby Dogbreath » Wed Sep 08, 1:03 am

It was a pleasure to read your posts. Thanks.

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Fri Sep 10, 1:23 pm

Thanks guys - I am really happy to hear that you have enjoyed the posts!!
: >>>>>>


this is the first trip that we did not allow for jet lag and just went back to work --- it has not been that bad. whenever we feel the stress beginning we just start humming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhdQ59LHorQ&NR=1

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Postby Bohannon » Fri Sep 10, 3:38 pm

worldcitizen1723 wrote:Thanks guys - I am really happy to hear that you have enjoyed the posts!!
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this is the first trip that we did not allow for jet lag and just went back to work --- it has not been that bad. whenever we feel the stress beginning we just start humming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhdQ59LHorQ&NR=1



Wow man, you've mastered the language!!

peace

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Sun Sep 12, 2:36 pm

rothflmao

the operative word was HUMM !!!!

I hope you viewed the video long enough to get to the song!! It is like the unofficial anthem of Amsterdam. It is the default tune that you will hear whistled or hummed as bikes whizz by. It is always the last song played at many Amsterdam events, including the Prinsengracht Concert (part of the Grachtenfest, third weekend in August) Everyone gets on their feet and sings: (it always touches me)

this is the 2009 version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6keYZxjCtLo

this is 2004 (with Dutch and ENGLISH translation, so you appreciate the lyrics)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZboX3qZ ... re=related

so - we attempt to keep the tune and spirit in our hearts!

------ ONE correction

It's Dr Grinspoon at Barney's - (not greenspoon : > )

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Postby boneymaroni » Sun Sep 12, 2:44 pm

Here's one that I find myself humming every now and then...a Johnny Jordaan tune:

"Geef mij maar Amsterdam"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkI26R61Doo

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Sun Sep 12, 2:51 pm

love it boney

especially loved the photos in the video. thanks for sharing it.

check this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9GAF4by ... re=related

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Postby boneymaroni » Sun Sep 12, 3:17 pm

Oh...here ya go...

Aan de Amsterdamse Grachten....this time by Tante Leen....the photos are excellent......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-QSVYk6IHM

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Sun Sep 12, 3:33 pm

the photos are great. what is so deeply appealing is that so many of the corners and streets look almost exactly the same as they do now.

ha, i am back to just dreamin of Amsterdam.....

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Postby slug » Tue Sep 14, 2:56 am

Thank-you for a very well written trip report. Am leaving in less than 2 weeks and your reports really brought the memories back. I keep going back to your trip report to re-read and take notes, several great tips and interesting ideas on places to visit. Any further tips as to visiting the Castle? Would like to do a day trip by fiets from central Amsterdam, good idea or not? Do you plan on going back soon?

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Tue Sep 14, 4:16 am

Hey Slug,
Glad to be an inspiration!! I envy you, going back to the city we love! Have a great trip and write a report or two : > Hey comment on my suggestions!

the castle: I think this was our third attempt to get to the castle by bike. first two times we just got lost in the countryside, both great adventures, but no castle. We had maps and instructions (second time) and STILL got gloriously lost. i f you are good with maps and trust yourself out in the countryside, you should be able to make it. certainly others have. On the other hand, if you tend to over indulgence and are unfamiliar with the countryside, perhaps doing it the way we did (train with bikes to Weesp) absolutely insures you will get to the castle! Then you have plenty of time and energy to do a lot of exploration in the area and on the way back to Amsterdam.

these are the clearest and simplest bike instructions (we did not have these) on getting to Weesp. The castle is well marked (more or less ) : > from there.

http://wikitravel.org/en/Weesp

ohhh, do I plan on going back??? as soon as i can! : > without winning the lottery or any other such windfall appearing in my lap, it will probably not be before next August. Of course if i can conjure up a reason and or a job to get me there sooner..... : > geez, if i could figure out a way to make a living there, I would move in an instant!

enjoy yourself! and thanks for letting me know that you found the report useful!

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Postby moe. » Tue Sep 14, 7:54 pm

Being a huge fan of good pizza, I'm curious about La Perla. When I went to their site and checked out the pizza menu I noticed that the first ingredient is tomato, not tomato sauce. Does this mean that they put slices or chunks of tomato on rather than sauce? Thanks.

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Postby Banks » Tue Sep 14, 8:25 pm

moe. wrote:Being a huge fan of good pizza, I'm curious about La Perla.


http://www.pizzaperla.nl/

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Tue Sep 14, 8:34 pm

moe. wrote:Being a huge fan of good pizza, I'm curious about La Perla. When I went to their site and checked out the pizza menu I noticed that the first ingredient is tomato, not tomato sauce. Does this mean that they put slices or chunks of tomato on rather than sauce? Thanks.


Oh Moe, it is really good AUTHENTIC Italian style. thin crust, brick oven.

they make their own tomato sauce. it is fresh, but it is a sauce and not chunks of tomato ; >

let me know what you think after sampling!

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Postby moe. » Tue Sep 14, 9:09 pm

Banks wrote:
moe. wrote:Being a huge fan of good pizza, I'm curious about La Perla.


http://www.pizzaperla.nl/


Thanks Banks, but if you'd read the next sentence I've been there, done that and bookmarked it!

worldcitizen1723 wrote:Oh Moe, it is really good AUTHENTIC Italian style. thin crust, brick oven.

they make their own tomato sauce. it is fresh, but it is a sauce and not chunks of tomato ; >

let me know what you think after sampling!


I certainly will! I can't wait to go now. Too bad they don't have pepperoni, but the four cheese will work just fine :^) Good pizza is hard to find out here in Cali. Every time I go back to my part of NY state I always hit Pudgie's at least twice. Only place I've ever been that offers "meat sauce", pizza sauce with bits of ground beef in it. Yum.

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Postby worldcitizen1723 » Tue Sep 14, 9:28 pm

moe. wrote:
Banks wrote:
moe. wrote:Being a huge fan of good pizza, I'm curious about La Perla.


http://www.pizzaperla.nl/


Thanks Banks, but if you'd read the next sentence I've been there, done that and bookmarked it!

worldcitizen1723 wrote:Oh Moe, it is really good AUTHENTIC Italian style. thin crust, brick oven.

they make their own tomato sauce. it is fresh, but it is a sauce and not chunks of tomato ; >

let me know what you think after sampling!


I certainly will! I can't wait to go now. Too bad they don't have pepperoni, but the four cheese will work just fine :^) Good pizza is hard to find out here in Cali. Every time I go back to my part of NY state I always hit Pudgie's at least twice. Only place I've ever been that offers "meat sauce", pizza sauce with bits of ground beef in it. Yum.



I will be curious to hear your opinion, as it is much more delicate type of a pizza than what we are used to in US. Personally I definitely think it is better than the brick oven pizza on Lieligracht, they have gone down hill after an initial year or two of producing a quality product.

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Postby moe. » Tue Sep 14, 10:23 pm

worldcitizen1723 wrote:I will be curious to hear your opinion, as it is much more delicate type of a pizza than what we are used to in US. Personally I definitely think it is better than the brick oven pizza on Lieligracht, they have gone down hill after an initial year or two of producing a quality product.


Looks like I'm going to be doing a trip report for sure now. Pizza places had a history of doing the same thing where I grew up. Every year or two there would be a new favorite place. I recently looked at Yahoo local comments for pizza back there and things haven't changed a bit, lol.

I look forward to eating at one of my favorite smoker-friendly cafes too, La Grotte. I love to sit in there, people watch and toke while waiting for my meal.

A month to go...


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